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How CNN's Jeff Zucker and His Cronies Manipulated the News

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Re: How CNN's Jeff Zucker and His Cronies Manipulated the News

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

TrispusAttucks wrote: post #2

It's a shame what became of CNN. It used to be my most trusted news. I believed everything they told me. Their credibility allowed them to be carried into very dark territory and they took me with them. Once the cracks started to show through I started looking into other sources and slowly became totally disillusioned. They are a political mouthpiece more than a news organization. They sowed so much division in the c…

I’m just surprised that so many people on HN seem to have cable at all. If you asked me what I thought of any of the news networks on cable, I’d give you a blank stare, they haven’t been relevant to most techies for more than a decade now. The only reason FoxNews is winning the ratings battle is that older (and more conservative) people have been cutting the cord much slower than younger people.

The polarization and desperate rating grabs are merely a death throw of an industry that has lost relevance.

Re: How CNN's Jeff Zucker and His Cronies Manipulated the News

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Post by MrPatan »

forgingahead wrote: post #3

Really disappointing what CNN became under Zucker. I'm of the generation where CNN was our window to the world - pre-mass Internet connectivity, if you had cable, or were passing through an airport, or in a hotel with it, you had access to a whole world of people and places that could plug into. Really shameful what they did - from turning into a political mouthpiece, to finding new ways to heighten the temperature i…

How can we know it wasn't always partisan drivel, only now you can tell?

Re: How CNN's Jeff Zucker and His Cronies Manipulated the News

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Post by ComradePhil »

Somehow people seem to believe that media became worse over time. No, that didn't happen. It's just that people found out exactly how the media works because they had access to the source material.

I remember the Trump election cycle when they kept coming up with "the beginning of the end" for Trump by mis-reporting what he said in rallies, debates, speeches... only to find out that the supporters kept growing... because turns out, considerable number of people actually looked for the source video (out of curiosity than suspicion, I imagine) and found that the media were either manipulating the videos or clipping out the context to misrepresent what he was talking about.

They have always been doing this but the masses didn't have access to the source material so they could report anything and get away with it. What has changed is that a lots of people can now see things for themselves (lots of people still choose not to, but I think it is out of habit than anything). The post-internet media has to take this into consideration and only lie about things that is difficult to document in video. Had they considered this during the campaign, "news" like "Russiagate" would have been much more effective.

https://youtu.be/YZ46I3kMOr0

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Post by gman83 »

rnd0 wrote: post #6
TrispusAttucks wrote: post #2

It's a shame what became of CNN. It used to be my most trusted news. I believed everything they told me. Their credibility allowed them to be carried into very dark territory and they took me with them. Once the cracks started to show through I started looking into other sources and slowly became totally disillusioned. They are a political mouthpiece more than a news organization. They sowed so much division in the c…

>They don't inform their viewers, they weaponize them. Just the same as Fox, just the same as OAN, just the same as RT, just the same as MSNBC, just the same as ...

Some of these are way worse than others, they're not at all comparable.

Re: How CNN's Jeff Zucker and His Cronies Manipulated the News

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Post by larrymcp »

TrispusAttucks wrote: post #2

It's a shame what became of CNN. It used to be my most trusted news. I believed everything they told me. Their credibility allowed them to be carried into very dark territory and they took me with them. Once the cracks started to show through I started looking into other sources and slowly became totally disillusioned. They are a political mouthpiece more than a news organization. They sowed so much division in the c…

Yeah, you don't need TV news. TV news is mostly commentary these days

Just check the AP & Reuters feeds each day. You'll get straight news, and you'll also save a lot of time.

Re: How CNN's Jeff Zucker and His Cronies Manipulated the News

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Post by RobertMiller »

Cable news is a waste. Anything worth hearing about will be written up by a newspaper. And with newspapers now having websites, cable news doesn't even have an immediacy advantage. The only thing cable news can do better than newspapers is show you live footage of something happening, but that's good for little but gawking at.

And if you really must get CNN's take on things, https://lite.cnn.com/en is much better than their cable channel. No filler, rambling talking heads, flashy hypnotic animations and music, or commercial breaks.

Re: How CNN's Jeff Zucker and His Cronies Manipulated the News

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Post by lazyeye »

I remember watching recently a discussion on CNN about how Virginia voters were white supremacists because the CNN-preferred candidate had lost the state election. Note: These would be the same voters that voted for Obama in previous elections.

The media is garbage, pure and simple.

Re: How CNN's Jeff Zucker and His Cronies Manipulated the News

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Post by rnd0 »

nickpp wrote: post #9
rnd0 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>They don't inform their viewers, they weaponize them. Just the same as Fox, just the same as OAN, just the same as RT, just the same as MSNBC, just the same as ...

Let's not change the subject with some whatabout-ism. We are talking about CNN.

It isn't "whataboutyou" ism to point out that essentially the entire news industry has become little more than fear-mongering clickbait (on one hand) or propaganda for one of the two political parties of the U.S (on the other hand).

CNN is just a symptom of a much larger problem and it's that much larger problem which needs to be addressed -which will continue until it is addressed.

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