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> These men are known in Russia as the “siloviki” — “men of force”, or perhaps even, in the Irish phrase, “hard men”. Just to clarify. The word "siloviki" made from "силовые структуры", which may be translated literally as "structures of force", or less literally but preserving some meaning "armed organizations" (maybe "armed forces", but I think that in English "armed forces" doesn't include the likes of police and…

"other organization with a dress code that requires a gun" ⇒ mafia.

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> These men are known in Russia as the “siloviki” — “men of force”, or perhaps even, in the Irish phrase, “hard men”. Just to clarify. The word "siloviki" made from "силовые структуры", which may be translated literally as "structures of force", or less literally but preserving some meaning "armed organizations" (maybe "armed forces", but I think that in English "armed forces" doesn't include the likes of police and…

> other organization with a dress code that requires a gun Sounds a lot like organized crime, is it supposed to have that undertone?

or mercenaries/"private security"

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> These men are known in Russia as the “siloviki” — “men of force”, or perhaps even, in the Irish phrase, “hard men”. Just to clarify. The word "siloviki" made from "силовые структуры", which may be translated literally as "structures of force", or less literally but preserving some meaning "armed organizations" (maybe "armed forces", but I think that in English "armed forces" doesn't include the likes of police and…

> other organization with a dress code that requires a gun Sounds a lot like organized crime, is it supposed to have that undertone?

>is it supposed to have that undertone?

nope. the 2nd word means "structures" and it implies part of the state.

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> These men are known in Russia as the “siloviki” — “men of force”, or perhaps even, in the Irish phrase, “hard men”. Just to clarify. The word "siloviki" made from "силовые структуры", which may be translated literally as "structures of force", or less literally but preserving some meaning "armed organizations" (maybe "armed forces", but I think that in English "armed forces" doesn't include the likes of police and…

> other organization with a dress code that requires a gun Sounds a lot like organized crime, is it supposed to have that undertone?

> other organization with a dress code that requires a gun

No, that sounds like any armed forces, police force, the secret service, etc.

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kinda funny how it sort of reads:

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> These men are known in Russia as the “siloviki” — “men of force”, or perhaps even, in the Irish phrase, “hard men”. Just to clarify. The word "siloviki" made from "силовые структуры", which may be translated literally as "structures of force", or less literally but preserving some meaning "armed organizations" (maybe "armed forces", but I think that in English "armed forces" doesn't include the likes of police and…

"other organization with a dress code that requires a gun" ⇒ mafia.

Not all mafia have dress code. Some do, but it is not norm or anything.

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> These men are known in Russia as the “siloviki” — “men of force”, or perhaps even, in the Irish phrase, “hard men”. Just to clarify. The word "siloviki" made from "силовые структуры", which may be translated literally as "structures of force", or less literally but preserving some meaning "armed organizations" (maybe "armed forces", but I think that in English "armed forces" doesn't include the likes of police and…

> other organization with a dress code that requires a gun Sounds a lot like organized crime, is it supposed to have that undertone?

Policemen wear guns, and it doesn't sound like an organized crime.

The root of the word "siloviki" is "sila", which means "force". And it is about using force in order to perform their job. Like policemen do. Or security guards. Or soldiers.

And it is not used to refer to crime activities. They also use force, but they are not "siloviki".

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