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War will be a total failure, FSB whistleblower says

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Says totally unsourced, unauthenticatable document found on internet.

Take it for what it is. It is highly unlikely we will get authenticated document like that. I red the document, it says a lot of things that I think would be pretty difficult to make up (not impossible, though).

And the purpose of the "leak" is?

A KGB guy just set out to write a rand that demoralizes the russians and gives hope to the ukrainians?

I'm all on the side of the ukrainians, but I'm 99% sure the document is not real.

Re: War will be a total failure, FSB whistleblower says

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This is not a surprise based on what we have seen so far.

Russia is imploding. The scale of the implosion is still yet to be determined. The only thing I think the Russian government could do to make the situation worse is use Nuclear weapons on Ukraine or another ally country.

A few points to support this idea;

1. Logistics win wars. When invading a country you must adequately feed, water and move and support your military's fighting forces. Russia has failed at this.

2. The people of Ukraine have a clear objective from a solid leader - expel the invaders. And a clear cost to losing. If they loose there country will fall. No amount of Russian propaganda will outlast such simple clear objectives.

3. The world has applied its cancel cutler to the economy of Russia. Economic sanction's have reduced the value of the currency and stock market. The people will move to countries where they can have a better life in a more stable economy.

4.I foresees the humanitarian crises in Russia being worse than the one in Ukraine. Russia has a population about 3 times the size ~144m vs 44m. And the people who are feeling Russia will haft to fight against the stigma of being people who lived under Putin.

Re: War will be a total failure, FSB whistleblower says

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This is not a surprise based on what we have seen so far. Russia is imploding. The scale of the implosion is still yet to be determined. The only thing I think the Russian government could do to make the situation worse is use Nuclear weapons on Ukraine or another ally country. A few points to support this idea; 1. Logistics win wars. When invading a country you must adequately feed, water and move and support your m…

I'm wondering how long Putin will keep the population obedient enough, by rising threats. At some point, when the people see they're losing everything, fear of jail is not enough to keep them quiet.

Re: War will be a total failure, FSB whistleblower says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Take it for what it is. It is highly unlikely we will get authenticated document like that. I red the document, it says a lot of things that I think would be pretty difficult to make up (not impossible, though).

And the purpose of the "leak" is? A KGB guy just set out to write a rand that demoralizes the russians and gives hope to the ukrainians? I'm all on the side of the ukrainians, but I'm 99% sure the document is not real.

"Make peace, you fools!" German field marshal Gerd von Rundstedt July 1944

That's why a KGB guy might write something like this - the intent wouldn't be to demoralize russians - it'd be to save Russia.

It still might be propaganda/disinformation but I wouldn't reject it out of hand.

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