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Voice Lessons – How coaches get in athletes’ heads

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Having trained with elite athletes and coaches before, and knowing religious people, the author got some of it so right. Fear is ego and ego speaks language, so you need to find or hear a voice that separates you from the nagging, halting filter of your own ego to perform at an elite level in pretty much anything. And yet then, and the end of the article, the author judges it with some pitiful story about not getting your body back, from having "given" it in college, as though the incredible and peak human experience of performing at that level is somehow lesser - or worse, their own experience as a critic and anthropologist is somehow equal or worthy of having an opinion of what elite performance entails. The ending read as an unbearable conceit, as though criticism can digest the experience of training at that level, perhaps to seduce magazine readers of Harpers and provide some knowing comfort and justification to people who have stopped at mediocrity. Yes, I'm angry about the article, so (point author) great provocative writing, but what a disappointing analysis. I don't compete, or even place among the people who do the things I do passably as an amateur, and nobody needs my defense, but as a writer, it seemed low.

Maybe there are elite athletes who regret their commitment, or maybe the author is really a former olympic team contender knocking the ladder away behind them, but having trained with olympians and been trained by their trainers, and being involved in mentoring and coaching relationships, the end note about "a former track star sat in my office weeping," seemed out of line. Again, superb insight into the relationship between voice and performance, and how it's closely related to spiritual experiences, but her critical lens really taints it.

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Something I tell training partners when they start competing: “Competing in a sport is a skill independent of the skills of the sport itself.”

What I mean is that through training, you learn how to do the sport. That’s table stakes. In order to compete well, you need to learn the skill of competing in that sport. That’s hard, as the practice is competition itself. And it’s a different skill set.

Re: Voice Lessons – How coaches get in athletes’ heads

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Awesome article. Three things: 1. Esther Hicks is maybe my favorite contemporary philosopher. Her words are incredible. But she operates by channeling the voice of “Abraham,” a non-physical intelligence. Whatever that means, the channeling works. What she communicates is truly awesome. 2. Julian Jaynes — the idea that the voices in our heads were perceived as divine for ancient peoples. The voices in our head can giv…

What makes a coach worth to you? Asking because I do coach with focus on non-violence and am curious about value.

Re: Voice Lessons – How coaches get in athletes’ heads

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Awesome article. Three things: 1. Esther Hicks is maybe my favorite contemporary philosopher. Her words are incredible. But she operates by channeling the voice of “Abraham,” a non-physical intelligence. Whatever that means, the channeling works. What she communicates is truly awesome. 2. Julian Jaynes — the idea that the voices in our heads were perceived as divine for ancient peoples. The voices in our head can giv…

What makes a coach worth to you? Asking because I do coach with focus on non-violence and am curious about value.

I think self confidence (where I’m generally high) is extremely valuable. But going into my uncomfort zones, that’s where the value can come. I really do feel faster growth.

I’d love to have a coach focused on non-violence. For marriage, I think I’d find it very valuable—but also for greater self awareness.

Re: Voice Lessons – How coaches get in athletes’ heads

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Having trained with elite athletes and coaches before, and knowing religious people, the author got some of it so right. Fear is ego and ego speaks language, so you need to find or hear a voice that separates you from the nagging, halting filter of your own ego to perform at an elite level in pretty much anything. And yet then, and the end of the article, the author judges it with some pitiful story about not getting…

You seem to take away that the author leaves us with judgement. It seemed to me the author ended on a sad note.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes a coach worth to you? Asking because I do coach with focus on non-violence and am curious about value.

I think self confidence (where I’m generally high) is extremely valuable. But going into my uncomfort zones, that’s where the value can come. I really do feel faster growth. I’d love to have a coach focused on non-violence. For marriage, I think I’d find it very valuable—but also for greater self awareness.

I just spoke w a friend yesterday about the non-violence part and how it resonates a bit negatively.

But the gist of the practice is to expand awareness to feelings/emotions and the driving forces behind one’s actions, and bringing ownership to one’s talk and self-talk.

This in a way cleans up a lot of self-maintaining patterns that otherwise keep creating friction. It also makes possible deeper connection and intimacy + effortless compassion in all relationships.

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