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#11
Son was tested going into the Army. Opportunities opened up according to your score.

He scored 99%, was offered a position training for intelligence. But he was a young blood, wanted to see the world and declined. Ended up in Iraq (as he desired).

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#12

I honestly believe that HR in IT is so broken that just about nothing they do makes sense. Most interviews are BS, most coding interviews/tests are BS, an IQ test is BS too. I don’t think the IQ test is inherently worse or better that the other voodoo HR practices. A high IQ is something you can use to show a high probability of a candidate to “succeed” at his/her job but what is success? An IQ test can’t differentia…

I think HR in general is broken. Working for a large bank, I see a lot of HR personnel try to filter candidates by university prestige, or a combination of previous titles held / companies worked for. I've recommended several friends with real world experience at no-name companies and they get passed over because some ex-JP Morgan or whoever applied for the role and "obviously" they're the better candidate.

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#13
post #10

An employer thinking is you can give candidates an IQ test and grade it like the SATs is a fool. Expect this reductive logic to permeate the entire organization.

why do you mean bu grade it like the SAT?

Anything below a certain cutoff (say, 120) doesn't make the cut. That is what quantifying humans is useful for, after all.

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#14
Yes it is a thing, I've had almost every kind of test under the sun during a job interview at this point. The best companies to work for IME are the ones that don't test you at all: You sit down with a domain-knowledgeable manager and an expert, and you figure out if you fit right.

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IQ tests have been shown to have predict performance in a wide range of jobs. There is a 2004 paper "General Mental Ability in the World of Work: Occupational Attainment and Job Performance" http://wminsk-shared-docs.s3.amazonaws.com/Schmidt_Hunter_20... .

That seems both obvious and irrelevant to hiring. In today's market you are less picking the best available person and trying to increase the number of people available for the position who are willing to take it. You never want to create a filter so small that no one can pass through it.

Increasing the number of people available for a position doesn't help you hire a better candidate if you aren't able to effectively screen out candidates.

I don't see why an IQ test creates a filter so small no one can pass through it. It's just one more data point.

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#17

IQ tests have been shown to have predict performance in a wide range of jobs. There is a 2004 paper "General Mental Ability in the World of Work: Occupational Attainment and Job Performance" http://wminsk-shared-docs.s3.amazonaws.com/Schmidt_Hunter_20... .

Maybe you should fund a study about the success of companies that hire software engineers via IQ tests versus companies that don't test candidates via IQ test? Cause that would be a lot more relevant than your paper...

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#18

I honestly believe that HR in IT is so broken that just about nothing they do makes sense. Most interviews are BS, most coding interviews/tests are BS, an IQ test is BS too. I don’t think the IQ test is inherently worse or better that the other voodoo HR practices. A high IQ is something you can use to show a high probability of a candidate to “succeed” at his/her job but what is success? An IQ test can’t differentia…

It's better than other voodoo practices because it more accurately measures what is trying to measure.

Your second paragraph is arguing that IT employers should be agnostic to how intelligent their devs are. That really didn't make sense to me. All things being equal I'd rather hire smarter devs.

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#20
I'm waiting for the day when we submit to a cranial measurement scan that deduces intelligence based on blackbox ai. This is a joke, but yeah interviews are ridiculous at this point. In time, I might just do something more fun like being a pilot, running a eucalyptus farm etc.
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