Oh my, it looks ... bad and hard to read.
Any way to spin off the previous UI?
MDN Redesign
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#12> In the coming months, we’ll be expanding MDN to include a premium subscription service based on the feedback we received from web developers who want to customize their MDN experience. Stay tuned for more information on MDN Plus. It’s hard not to feel pessimistic about this one.
Mozilla's given me a lot of reasons to be skeptical of much of their last few years but I think this is relatively safe. I don't think they can mess this one up. Web Docs, the bit most people here care about is open source and has many contributions from MS/Google also, so they can't really paywall it or make it too expensive or they'd just go back to hosting that content themselves on msdn or web.dev
If they want to launch a paid newsletter/tutorials site with the same name, it doesn't really affect me much
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#13Not sure how to feel about this. On the one hand, the information does seem more accessible. On the other, all the personality of MDN has been completely wiped out and it feels like an autogenerated github page. Sadly par for the course with modern web design.
As much as personality is fun, it's clear and simple - first and foremost it's a reference work?
Sure, that's the logical programmer mindset. But the web used to be fun, and that makes me sad.
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#14I thought I was on a different website for a moment haha.
First impression is good though! Looks clean.
One minor annoyance: The sidebar scroll behaves weird. I'm also not a huge fan of the big in your face custom scrollbars. I usually have them hidden, and the custom ones do not respect that, but that's preference.
Dark mode is absolutely great!
Much respect for taking on a big redesign like this. Especially considering the target audience, that takes guts haha.
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#15Finally! A way to directly support MDN and the great things Mozilla does. I remember emailing them over a year ago about their broken previous $5 subscription and getting 0 response back which was perfectly Mozilla.
I'm not optimistic at all about a subscription service for "web developers who want to customize their MDN experience" as an actual value add, as this seems negligible, but I am overall as 1. it's a step in the right direction for new ways to monetize Mozilla and 2. it sounds like they're listening to feedback and willing to iterate on it.
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#16MDN is the single most useful and impactful site in my webdev/design career. Above all things, I want this site to stick around and exist.
Some comments seem to be critical of any change. And while I don't like some of the visual changes, overall I think it's going in the right direction.
Most importantly, I want MDN to stay online and whatever they need to do (within reason of course) to keep it free, open, searchable and existing, I am on board with.
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#17What's up with the huge amount of whitespace? This is supposed to be an information dense website, most of the screen is empty white. Not liking this, who designs this stuff? How to revert back, or I just need to add custom styles?
Update: I added custom styles to remove 95% of the extra margins, padding, spacing, line-height, updated h1/h2/h3/h4 header styling, code highlight styling, and it looks 10 times better, I can actually read the information. Unfortunately I still prefer the previous version
Question: Why do these important sites never get actual user feedback before forcing out a major update as a big "surprise" ?
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#18Love the update. The color-coded pages are also very useful. Though I wish they had an option to hide deprecated methods and properties, or at least put them in a different group.
What do you mean by color-coded pages? That sounds useful, but I don't see anything about it?
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#19> In mid-2021 we started to think about modernizing MDN’s design [..] with an emphasis on improved navigability and a universal look and feel across all our pages. > > A new logo, chosen by our community [..] We worked closely with branding specialist Luc Doucedame Wait, this sounds like redesign for redesign's sake? > Coming soon: MDN Plus [..] In the coming months, we’ll be expanding MDN to include a premium subscr…
I mean, dark mode alone is somewhat a redesign for redesign's sake that is nevertheless bound to please many of MDN's audience.
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#20Too much white that's made too many of the visual cues I'd use to navigate blend in with the rest of the page. In the past, I could immediately scroll to polyfills, browser compat charts, etc without having to pay attention while scrolling because those sections were so distinct. I've missed them three times already today and had to start over, scrolling slowly. For me, this update decreases usability.
If anyone from MDN is reading these replies, could you make the old stylesheets open so that we can use extensions like Stylus to put things back?