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Re: Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events

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Post by password321 » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 12:55 PM UTC

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It really is eye opening. For years many have made the excuse when it comes to others that its just not worth it because of the potential consequences. I honestly bought it myself. Yet here we are throwing all sorts of punches with a nuclear power. Goes to show you how that was all an excuse.

Re: Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events

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Post by severino » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 12:56 PM UTC

Mehjuiy wrote: post #8

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Maybe a criticism against the hypocrisy of the western world and its moral superiority?

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Post by __s » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 12:58 PM UTC

stabbles wrote: post #9

The Russian challenger of the 2021 World Chess Championships Yan Nepomniachtchi publicly disapproves of the Ukraine war: https://twitter.com/lachesisq/status/1497984140075020293

Google translate: It is reported that negotiations are underway in Gomel. God grant that their result was a truce. I fear the price of the madness of the last days will be unimaginable and exorbitant. Can we afford our future now?

Re: Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events

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Post by password321 » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 1:00 PM UTC

Mehjuiy wrote: post #8

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Maybe he didn't word it in the best way but the point here is that many feel betrayed. Betrayed because people with simillar backgrounds to them have not recieved anywhere near the same treatment. People from Gaza come to mind.

Re: Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events

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Post by haughty » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 1:00 PM UTC

Well, that is not surprising; Not just chess, this will extend to any sport. This is a new iron curtain. Air travel is now very much restricted; If you can't get into or out of Russia, you can't really hold events there.

Re: Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events

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Post by Mehjuiy » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 1:00 PM UTC

severino wrote: post #12

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Maybe a criticism against the hypocrisy of the western world and its moral superiority?

In which sense?

I'm not remembering a nuclear power taking over another democratic country in Europe for a long time.

Or do you mean Asia? Or other regions of the world?

Is it so hypocritic to say no and stand up to a bully who threatens the world with nukes?

'who needs a world without Russia in it's

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Post by dane-pgp » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 1:01 PM UTC

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If people don't like being reminded of the infamous rant by Tigran L. Petrosian, I understand, but for those who don't know the context, I'll provide the background here:

https://defector.com/let-me-explain-this-amazingly-petulant-...

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Post by gostsamo » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 1:01 PM UTC

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I'm near the crisis (many Ukrainian refugees are here now). I haven't seen any indications that skin color is the differentiator. Ukrainians are not all crystal white and they're being helped regardless. It's much more about speaking a similar language and sharing a similar culture.

It doesn't seem so universally. The stories here seem ugly.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-refu...

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Post by severino » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 1:02 PM UTC

Mehjuiy wrote: post #16

severino wrote: post #12

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Maybe a criticism against the hypocrisy of the western world and its moral superiority?

In which sense? I'm not remembering a nuclear power taking over another democratic country in Europe for a long time. Or do you mean Asia? Or other regions of the world? Is it so hypocritic to say no and stand up to a bully who threatens the world with nukes? 'who needs a world without Russia in it's

Oh, I now understand. Victims only matter if they belong to a "democratic" country, or if they live in a place called Europe.

Re: Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events

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Post by enkid » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 1:03 PM UTC

password321 wrote: post #11

rjzzleep wrote: post #4

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It really is eye opening. For years many have made the excuse when it comes to others that its just not worth it because of the potential consequences. I honestly bought it myself. Yet here we are throwing all sorts of punches with a nuclear power. Goes to show you how that was all an excuse.

Gaddafi, Saddam, and Assad all had sanctions against them and groups armed against them. Sudan was forced to give up South Sudan. The response to any situation is never going to be identical, it needs to be dictated by what is going on in those specific circumstances, but certainly there's enough evidence of similar actions taken outside of white countries to suggest this is a gross oversimplification.