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Lenovo announces the first Arm-based ThinkPad

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When people ask “Does it run Linux”, they typically don’t mean WSL (which in its current iteration is essentially just a VM).

That is the only usable way for Linux Desktop on laptops after 20 years going for it.

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but does it run Linux?

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that is certainly one option

however running Linux in a VM still has all the advantages of the modern Windows: adverts, mandatory updates with enforced reboots, irremovable spyware (telemetry) and other abusive practices

Re: Lenovo announces the first Arm-based ThinkPad

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I like this trend, I'm currently looking at next gen Surface Pro X as a replacement for my 2018 MBP.

I'm almost there with using remote development on super beefy Windows desktop (waiting for Rider remote development support) - I want a mobile device that's powerful enough for client apps - but I want to offload heavy lifting to a tower that I don't have to listen to whizzing next to my face.

I'm not sure why they keep forcing the laptop form factor on this - tablet is much more flexible, you can add the keyboard folio if you want it but I prefer using dedicated keyboard/mouse when I'm using it for anything nontrivial, and tablet is more practical in most other scenarios.

Re: Lenovo announces the first Arm-based ThinkPad

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When people ask “Does it run Linux”, they typically don’t mean WSL (which in its current iteration is essentially just a VM).

That is the only usable way for Linux Desktop on laptops after 20 years going for it.

it's worked out of the box on every ThinkPad I've ever purchased

Re: Lenovo announces the first Arm-based ThinkPad

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but does it run Linux?

If not now, likely soon. The chip itself is already supported and even its GPU is implemented since 5.15. Similar chips in other laptops don't fail entirely. https://forum.manjaro.org/t/samsung-book-s-with-8cx/52818/3

I give it another 2 months and I'd bet someone boots the basics at least. (Assuming the laptop is reasonably powerful and has enough users / interest) They mostly need to make sure the device tree is correct.

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When people ask “Does it run Linux”, they typically don’t mean WSL (which in its current iteration is essentially just a VM).

That is the only usable way for Linux Desktop on laptops after 20 years going for it.

I'm a happy native Linux desktop user for almost that long. Preferred it to windows. Let's not exaggerate about "only usable".

Re: Lenovo announces the first Arm-based ThinkPad

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"The ThinkPad 13s will start at $1,099 when it comes out in May." It's too expensive for an ARM device.

But Apple's aren't? I agree with you but they are pricing it relative to what they can get away with and Apple set the starting point for ARM based laptops.

Re: Lenovo announces the first Arm-based ThinkPad

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but does it run Linux?

If not now, likely soon. The chip itself is already supported and even its GPU is implemented since 5.15. Similar chips in other laptops don't fail entirely. https://forum.manjaro.org/t/samsung-book-s-with-8cx/52818/3 I give it another 2 months and I'd bet someone boots the basics at least. (Assuming the laptop is reasonably powerful and has enough users / interest) They mostly need to make sure the device tree is co…

There's little upside on this. The chip is not faster than an Intel equivalent, and the laptop isn't cheaper either.

Re: Lenovo announces the first Arm-based ThinkPad

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"The ThinkPad 13s will start at $1,099 when it comes out in May." It's too expensive for an ARM device.

But Apple's aren't? I agree with you but they are pricing it relative to what they can get away with and Apple set the starting point for ARM based laptops.

Apple might still be selling Intel systems alongside ARM systems. But they’ve made it clear which side is the future. Their performance also isn’t a loss.

Probably the biggest factor though is in Windows land cross architecture comparability will be a much much bigger issue. If your legacy app only works on intel then arm is useless.

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