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iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by domlaut »

miken123 wrote: post #6

I would say another main issue is that while they ask you to setup DKIM records, they do not actually DKIM-sign your emails. Hence your mails may be more easily flagged as spam. Several people have reported this to Apple, but AFAIK it still hasn’t been fixed.

You're right -- this is something I missed mentioning. As of right now, it's still only the web-based iCloud Mail that makes use of DKIM. Using any other client/app will deliver your emails unsigned.

Would you mind if I updated the article crediting you for the DKIM addendum?

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by domlaut »

dan_wood wrote: post #7

No mention of the 3 existing email address limit per user on this article makes me sad...

This was something I was hoping to get around with using a separate relay like ImprovMX or Cloudflare's Email Routing -- that'd allow you to have a bunch more assuming you didn't need to use them for outbound emails -- discovering issue #2 in the process. And issue #6, if you did want to use them for outbound emails :-)

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by shimms »

h4waii wrote: post #8

iCloud+ seemed like a great value proposition for people migrating from Workspace, but there are quite a few hangups. Seems like Microsoft hits a good middle ground. Completely off topic, but why do people think having a sticky header indicating how far "through" an article is, is worth disrupting the content for?

We just went down the rabbit hole of trying to migrate to Microsoft 365 Family with custom domain. You (officially) need to move your domain to GoDaddy, which was unfortunately a blocker for us as they don’t support our domains TLD.

From what I read DKIM also isn’t offered on Family which is disappointing. Business plans get expensive quickly when you want Office apps as well.

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Post by rnk »

netfortius wrote: post #5

If it's just for custom domain and email, then Infomaniak is yet another choice, on a price to features, unlimited storage (for email) and hosting country (privacy concerns with Apple and US, anyone?!?) ratio solution. I have recently moved my custom domain hosting from a more expensive service, to Infomaniak, and I got the first email address for free (the main from my Google workspace), to which I may add some more…

I took a glance at their website. Does it do all the things the original article mentioned? Like setup catchall email, route email to specific addresses (like I have 3 people in my family, Jane, Akbar, Jeff, jeff@mydomain.com goes to him, but everyone@mydomain.com goes to all of us, yet parents@mydomain.com goes to just the 2 parents). I want that, plus it's part of the current hodge podge of email verification standards so it won't be blocked as spam when I send from there.

That's the most valuable feature of goggle mail and domain hosting to me.

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by theginger »

My biggest problem with it is I cannot sign up to iCloud+ because I don't have an apple device or a windows pc I could install the iCloud app onto. I suspect if I was to borrow one trying to use the mail on an android device would be fairly miserable making it not worth it but would be nice to have the option to try without needing to jump through hoops.

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by josephg »

woodson wrote: post #13

The “This email is already in use with another Apple ID.” issue after the Apple ID was deleted is particularly annoying. Why would they do that?

I doubt its on purpose.

My mum's work email address changed and we changed the email address associated with her apple ID. She had no end of tiny bugs pop up - especially in the first couple of weeks after the change.

Apple's systems in general don't seem to cope well with email addresses changing or being deleted. I think lots of software engineers use email addresses as if they're an immutable primary key. This just isn't the case.

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by abestic9 »

I'm optimistic that Apple is working on most of these issues (especially catch-all) right now and this is just representative of their new offering.

Like many things I've seen from Apple it will take a release cycle or two (of 1-2 years per cycle) to bring in this arguably basic functionality - as is tradition we'll groan about other issues being held back in favour of fancy new features.

I have no doubt they intend to fully compete with the email services from Google and Microsoft. Following on from last year we should see VPs taking us through the updates to iCloud+ alongside device launches as it expands into a fundamental service offering.

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by woodson »

josephg wrote: post #18
woodson wrote: post #13

The “This email is already in use with another Apple ID.” issue after the Apple ID was deleted is particularly annoying. Why would they do that?

I doubt its on purpose. My mum's work email address changed and we changed the email address associated with her apple ID. She had no end of tiny bugs pop up - especially in the first couple of weeks after the change. Apple's systems in general don't seem to cope well with email addresses changing or being deleted. I think lots of software engineers use email addresses as if they're an immutable primary key. This jus…

The claimed one-year period from deletion to when it becomes available for use as custom domain actually makes me think that it is on purpose. I just don’t understand what that purpose would be. I would think it was a bug if it just wouldn’t let you use an email currently or formerly used as another Apple ID, no matter how long ago.
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