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Re: Help Ukraine: resources, how to help without money, more

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Is there any legitimate way to fund armament as well?

Cost of a single Javelin Missile: $174,000(FY19. Launcher device is 126k extra)

That money is likely to be used for immediate expenses of army like salaries, fuel sandbags and anything that can be useful in fighting. Javelins are provided by other countries for free.

Re: Help Ukraine: resources, how to help without money, more

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This shouldn't be allowed, especially here.

Why shouldn't it be allowed in general? I do understand that on HN it might be too political.

Beside the political aspect of it, which is fine by me, this is actively meddling in foreign conflicts. One thing is to express support for one side, but I believe there are other better channels to get involved militarly.

Edit: also if our governments cared as much as keep telling us they do, they would take care of funding ukraine themselves. We wouldn't still be relying on private initiative, which sounds ridicolous to me.

Re: Help Ukraine: resources, how to help without money, more

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Help the civilians, don't help the military as it's only going to generate further violence and death. You won't make any difference in the conflict anyway. If you really care about civilian's lives, you should hope for the invasion to end as quickly as possible, not to drag along in the cities streets for weeks. There is no point in dragging the resistance for long as Ukraine has no chance of winning and the guerril…

Appeasement prolongs suffering and death.

Violence is the last resort for peaceful nations to stop further, more brutal violence of others.

Russia is making it harder and harder, reducing available options to resolve that war.

Re: Help Ukraine: resources, how to help without money, more

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why shouldn't it be allowed in general? I do understand that on HN it might be too political.

Beside the political aspect of it, which is fine by me, this is actively meddling in foreign conflicts. One thing is to express support for one side, but I believe there are other better channels to get involved militarly. Edit: also if our governments cared as much as keep telling us they do, they would take care of funding ukraine themselves. We wouldn't still be relying on private initiative, which sounds ridicolo…

The bulk of it is governmental. For example, 300 javelin missiles were sent ($24M), and that's only part of one shipment of arms from the US.

I don't know how much the private funding will help. Maybe it will fill in the gaps for small items that have not been sent over.

"actively meddling in foreign conflicts"

Why is that a bad thing?

"also if our governments cared as much as keep telling us they do"

I do agree that it seems many countries are mostly just talk. It seems just sending arms shipments is all they're willing to do.

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