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Bitconnect founder indicted in global $2.4B cryptocurrency scheme

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Re: Bitconnect founder indicted in global $2.4B cryptocurrency scheme

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Nice job. Now if only some people would see the difference between an actual ponzi scheme like this one and bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. That would be nice.

Show me one cryptocurrency that has driven real world industry more than financial speculation and scamming.

Monero because its untraceable(real world industry - underground drug markets)

IRS wants to crack it and awarded $1.25 million contract: https://cointelegraph.com/news/chainalysis-and-texas-firm-wi...

Re: Bitconnect founder indicted in global $2.4B cryptocurrency scheme

#15

Nice job. Now if only some people would see the difference between an actual ponzi scheme like this one and bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. That would be nice.

There isn't any difference.

I'm very sympathetic with many of the "anti"-crypto arguments but to say there is no difference between BitConnect and Bitcoin/Ethereum is just wrong. You might believe their value is based on a similar concept, pyramid scheme type construct, but they still have massive differences. Bitcoin/Ethereum/etc actually do /something/ (even if you ultimately come to the conclusion that that something is bad).

Re: Bitconnect founder indicted in global $2.4B cryptocurrency scheme

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will take time. Upsetting technologies attract conartists like flies to honey. Critics will deliberately conflate the cons with the rest until then, as it's a very convenient argument (though obviously fallacious.)

> It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it. > - Upton Sinclair

Is this a pro or con comment? Could be both I suppose.

Re: Bitconnect founder indicted in global $2.4B cryptocurrency scheme

#17

Nice job. Now if only some people would see the difference between an actual ponzi scheme like this one and bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. That would be nice.

The really fascinating bit isn't that they're currently programmed to think that crypto is doubleplusungood, it's the 180 narrative flip they'll do the second that their chosen media entities tells them to view crypto as doubleplusgood. You're going to see hordes of former crypto detractors rewrite history in their minds and come out with a new viewpoint without an inkling of self-awareness.

I'll ask you the same question I ask everyone who spouts nonsense - when it turns out you're wrong, will you care? Or is possessing this worldview somehow intrinsically satisfying to you, regardless of reality?

Re: Bitconnect founder indicted in global $2.4B cryptocurrency scheme

#18

Nice job. Now if only some people would see the difference between an actual ponzi scheme like this one and bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. That would be nice.

Let's assume for the faith of your argument that Bitcoin is a ponzi scheme. Who is at the top that gains from all of this? And how are you gonna indict "them" when seemingly no one knows who they are?

> Who is at the top that gains from all of this?

In a ponzi scheme the people higher in the pyramid are anyone who joined in the past and is trying to grow it. You could say Satoshi with his early mining and various other "insiders", whether their identity is known or not, are at the top. I don't necessarily agree that it's a ponzi scheme, although I'm sympathetic with many anti-crypto arguments, but that's the reasoning if expect they'd use.

Re: Bitconnect founder indicted in global $2.4B cryptocurrency scheme

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Nice job. Now if only some people would see the difference between an actual ponzi scheme like this one and bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. That would be nice.

Show me one cryptocurrency that has driven real world industry more than financial speculation and scamming.

You're moving the goal posts. It's fine to be against cryptocurrencies, but I think it damages your credibility when you claim bitcoin is a ponzi scheme. Since it shows a lack of understanding of what a ponzi scheme actually is. By you I don't mean you in particular, I mean it in a more general sense.

Re: Bitconnect founder indicted in global $2.4B cryptocurrency scheme

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's assume for the faith of your argument that Bitcoin is a ponzi scheme. Who is at the top that gains from all of this? And how are you gonna indict "them" when seemingly no one knows who they are?

> Who is at the top that gains from all of this? In a ponzi scheme the people higher in the pyramid are anyone who joined in the past and is trying to grow it. You could say Satoshi with his early mining and various other "insiders", whether their identity is known or not, are at the top. I don't necessarily agree that it's a ponzi scheme, although I'm sympathetic with many anti-crypto arguments, but that's the reaso…

Ponzi scheme? Perhaps not. So maybe we need a new word? It's a new invention, and thus might require a new lexicon to capture its essence.
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