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Why the Ukraine Crisis is the West's Fault (2014) [pdf]

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Re: Why the Ukraine Crisis is the West's Fault (2014) [pdf]

#16

This kind of analysis ignores what Ukraine and Ukrainians actually want. Western Ukraine, at the very least, is extremely nationalist and anti-Russian. Do they not have the right of self-determination as a sovereign country?

No, not if it significantly affects others, as it would in this case, by risking a nuclear war.

Should countries be able to get nuclear weapons just because they want them?

Re: Why the Ukraine Crisis is the West's Fault (2014) [pdf]

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post #4

From the opening paragraph this is extremely dated. Recently, in so many words, Putin himself said he wanted the rebuilding of the old Soviet empire. This might have seemed like a plausible explanation during Crimea. But this is all garbage when hearing straight from Putin a couple of days ago.

He also said that he wanted to negotiate a peace agreement which excludes NATO from Ukraine. Why not take that statement at face value too?

Re: Why the Ukraine Crisis is the West's Fault (2014) [pdf]

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Sounds like a useful idiot to me.

Russia has been dislocating extremely threatening weaponry right on NATO doorstep and treating it as its holy right, for a long time. The Kaliningrad region is Europe’s most militarised area, with SAM and tactical ballistic weaponry extending over most of Poland and the Baltic’s, quite possibly most of Europe in fact. Russian nuke-capable bombers graze NATO airspaces on an almost daily rate.

But Ukraine thinks about joining NATO and Russia has no choice but carve out some of its territory? And it’s the west’s fault?

In a 19th century Polish book (very racist by modern standards) by Nobel prize winning author Sienkiewicz, “In the desert and in the jungle”, an indigenous man Kali is being “enlightened” about Christianity. When asked to provide an example of a bad deed, he says “when someone take cow from Kali”. Asked for a good deed, he volunteers: “when Kali take cow”.

Basically, you don’t need to understand more about morality to understand Putin’s idea of statehood and leadership.

Re: Why the Ukraine Crisis is the West's Fault (2014) [pdf]

#20

This kind of analysis ignores what Ukraine and Ukrainians actually want. Western Ukraine, at the very least, is extremely nationalist and anti-Russian. Do they not have the right of self-determination as a sovereign country?

No, not if it significantly affects others, as it would in this case, by risking a nuclear war. Should countries be able to get nuclear weapons just because they want them?

Russia is the one threatening nuclear war here.

That’s on Russia, no one else.

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