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The Rain System “contains wildfires within 10 minutes of ignition”

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Re: The Rain System “contains wildfires within 10 minutes of ignition”

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Conveniently it's a single tree that catches fire with none nearby. Plus the drone is mere minutes away. What if it's densely packed brush and the drone is further away? Or a powerline touches off the fire setting hundreds of trees aflame? Or multiple lightning strikes touches off many fires in a wide area? This thing looks as if will be very expensive and work only some of the time.

I don't think this would even be able to put out a single tree catching fire. Generally the fire is too vertical and the extinguisher would land on the ground and not be activated by the heat, so it won't go off until flaming branches fall down, at which point the fire is too large.

You’re referring to a canopy or crown fire. It depends on conditions, of course, but it usually takes time for enough heat to build up that a fire crowns. There’s generally a period where it will burn through the lower and mid stories and it spreads.

Re: The Rain System “contains wildfires within 10 minutes of ignition”

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Of course, this only works if you spot the small fire quickly. By the time smoke is high up in the air, the fire has likely grown larger than this drone can handle.

Drones are horizontally scalable. Instead of one, 50 can go extinguish the fire.

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Re: The Rain System “contains wildfires within 10 minutes of ignition”

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Conveniently it's a single tree that catches fire with none nearby. Plus the drone is mere minutes away. What if it's densely packed brush and the drone is further away? Or a powerline touches off the fire setting hundreds of trees aflame? Or multiple lightning strikes touches off many fires in a wide area? This thing looks as if will be very expensive and work only some of the time.

It will be in great publicity videos, with FEMA kicking in funds for purchase grants. Local firefighters will have fun playing with new toys funded by further deficit spending.

Re: The Rain System “contains wildfires within 10 minutes of ignition”

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Conveniently it's a single tree that catches fire with none nearby. Plus the drone is mere minutes away. What if it's densely packed brush and the drone is further away? Or a powerline touches off the fire setting hundreds of trees aflame? Or multiple lightning strikes touches off many fires in a wide area? This thing looks as if will be very expensive and work only some of the time.

This thing looks as if will be very expensive and work only some of the time.

Something that works some of the time is significantly better than nothing, and if the times it works saves millions then the price is likely worth paying.

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

Re: The Rain System “contains wildfires within 10 minutes of ignition”

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Conveniently it's a single tree that catches fire with none nearby. Plus the drone is mere minutes away. What if it's densely packed brush and the drone is further away? Or a powerline touches off the fire setting hundreds of trees aflame? Or multiple lightning strikes touches off many fires in a wide area? This thing looks as if will be very expensive and work only some of the time.

This thing looks as if will be very expensive and work only some of the time. Something that works some of the time is significantly better than nothing, and if the times it works saves millions then the price is likely worth paying. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

This is version 0.1 - it will get much better. Anything you can think of, they’ve thought of and it’s on their roadmap.

Re: The Rain System “contains wildfires within 10 minutes of ignition”

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Of course, this only works if you spot the small fire quickly. By the time smoke is high up in the air, the fire has likely grown larger than this drone can handle.

Drones are horizontally scalable. Instead of one, 50 can go extinguish the fire.

That sounds like a scene straight out of factorio. I'm not sure whether that's delightful or concerning.

Re: The Rain System “contains wildfires within 10 minutes of ignition”

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The more effective rapid fire fighting becomes, perversely there is more demand to tolerate more fuel near structures because there is less expectation of losses. If that demand is met, when the rapid response fails, the fire will be more catastrophic.

It's like, having a gun for personal security can be more dangerous than going unarmed if the gun gives you unreasonable confidence.

Re: The Rain System “contains wildfires within 10 minutes of ignition”

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Conveniently it's a single tree that catches fire with none nearby. Plus the drone is mere minutes away. What if it's densely packed brush and the drone is further away? Or a powerline touches off the fire setting hundreds of trees aflame? Or multiple lightning strikes touches off many fires in a wide area? This thing looks as if will be very expensive and work only some of the time.

Expecting something to work 100% of the time is far too high of a bar to set for fire prevention. If it helps it saves lives.

That's not necessarily true. It may help and save no lives. It may not help.

Re: The Rain System “contains wildfires within 10 minutes of ignition”

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This is great! Sounds like they are solving the problem of detecting tiny fires in vast wilderness[0].

Detection seems like 80% of the problem. Immediate response would be a huge improvement over the current strategy. That's a win even if they don't solve the drone scaling/deployment/automation problems.

[0] https://www.rain.aero/missions/software-engineer-realtime-fi...

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