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Havana Syndrome: Officials stricken with illness on White House grounds

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Re: Havana Syndrome: Officials stricken with illness on White House grounds

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So now I really wonder if it's some EMI from security equipment we run ourselves.

Believed this for a long time. ELINT has been a part of US embassies and the WH since forever. I think the overwhelmingly most likely reason is an own-goal side effect of counter measures.

Overly aggressive sweeper designed to energize passive only surveillance devices?

Re: Havana Syndrome: Officials stricken with illness on White House grounds

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I'm having a really hard time wrapping my head around this one. In foreign countries is one thing, but inside the White House? Options in my head: 1. Large, long-range directed energy weapon off the White House grounds that would need some advanced mechanism for aiming. 2. Smaller, shorter-range directed energy weapon that was snuck into the White House. 3. Not a malicious directed-energy weapon

4. Psychosomatic

I used to think it was real

Big elaborate stories in newspapers and magazines

It's like a professional disinformation campaign run by ??? to convince ??? to ???.

And it was absurd the whole time I guess

But I'm still not convinced that anything is real here except growing evidence of an extremely compliant mass media

Re: Havana Syndrome: Officials stricken with illness on White House grounds

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I'm having a really hard time wrapping my head around this one. In foreign countries is one thing, but inside the White House? Options in my head: 1. Large, long-range directed energy weapon off the White House grounds that would need some advanced mechanism for aiming. 2. Smaller, shorter-range directed energy weapon that was snuck into the White House. 3. Not a malicious directed-energy weapon

4. Psychosomatic

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Re: Havana Syndrome: Officials stricken with illness on White House grounds

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Believed this for a long time. ELINT has been a part of US embassies and the WH since forever. I think the overwhelmingly most likely reason is an own-goal side effect of counter measures.

Overly aggressive sweeper designed to energize passive only surveillance devices?

Smart (or dumb) equipment that dynamically mis/targets jamming signal to specific locations?

Re: Havana Syndrome: Officials stricken with illness on White House grounds

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post #7

I'm having a really hard time wrapping my head around this one. In foreign countries is one thing, but inside the White House? Options in my head: 1. Large, long-range directed energy weapon off the White House grounds that would need some advanced mechanism for aiming. 2. Smaller, shorter-range directed energy weapon that was snuck into the White House. 3. Not a malicious directed-energy weapon

4. Psychosomatic

Somatic Symptom Disorder, sometimes called Psychosomatic Disorder, is defined in the DSM V and does not mean the symptoms are "all in your head". It refers to patients with a compulsive-to-the-point-of-self-damaging focus on their condition, even if that condition is a diagnosed medical condition.

In other words, it's not a blank check to ignore these people.

More on SSD here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK519704/table/ch3.t31 and here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK532253

Re: Havana Syndrome: Officials stricken with illness on White House grounds

#17
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Overly aggressive sweeper designed to energize passive only surveillance devices?

Smart (or dumb) equipment that dynamically mis/targets jamming signal to specific locations?

Beam forming comms, guess which people carry the new beam forming devices it's trying to optimise signal path to. (this was part of the OG 5G spec, to do agile tunable antenna stuff so you got diverse high bandwidth paths to specific devices in a "cell")

Re: Havana Syndrome: Officials stricken with illness on White House grounds

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I'm having a really hard time wrapping my head around this one. In foreign countries is one thing, but inside the White House? Options in my head: 1. Large, long-range directed energy weapon off the White House grounds that would need some advanced mechanism for aiming. 2. Smaller, shorter-range directed energy weapon that was snuck into the White House. 3. Not a malicious directed-energy weapon

IIRC, the Russian Embassy in DC has a line-of-sight with the Whitehouse... This needs a fact check, corrections encouraged.

It does not.

Re: Havana Syndrome: Officials stricken with illness on White House grounds

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

4. Psychosomatic

Somatic Symptom Disorder, sometimes called Psychosomatic Disorder, is defined in the DSM V and does not mean the symptoms are "all in your head". It refers to patients with a compulsive-to-the-point-of-self-damaging focus on their condition, even if that condition is a diagnosed medical condition. In other words, it's not a blank check to ignore these people. More on SSD here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK51…

To emphasize this, even if somatic symptoms are rooted in mental/emotional state, they’re still real and experienced as real.
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