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Mozilla prepares to launch MDN Plus in March 2022

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Re: Mozilla prepares to launch MDN Plus in March 2022

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Will this actually let us fund Firefox development, or is it another way to line the pockets of the wildly overpaid Mozilla Foundation executives? Sorry to be so negative, but as a long-time Firefox fan, I despair at the disparity between the funding for the Firefox team vs the executive team

https://www.comparably.com/companies/mozilla/executive-salar...

That looks quite far from accurate/complete/current.

Re: Mozilla prepares to launch MDN Plus in March 2022

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English Summary: Free MDN isn't going away. MDN Plus is a premium content service that will offer deep dives into technical topics. The service was tested over the summer. Additional announced features include bookmarking across all of MDN, commenting, offline browsing, and themes. Price: USD10/month or USD100/year. Time frame: March 2022

I'm torn about this initiative. MDN should be governed by a foundation that can be funded directly, with content that is accessible for all. By introducing a paid service with private content, it will reduce incentives to contribute insightful documentation and guides to the free version.

Re: Mozilla prepares to launch MDN Plus in March 2022

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post #6

Will this actually let us fund Firefox development, or is it another way to line the pockets of the wildly overpaid Mozilla Foundation executives? Sorry to be so negative, but as a long-time Firefox fan, I despair at the disparity between the funding for the Firefox team vs the executive team

https://www.comparably.com/companies/mozilla/executive-salar...

that data is wrong or incomplete, she was reported as being paid >$3mm in 2020

source: https://www.zdnet.com/article/endangered-firefox-the-state-o...

Re: Mozilla prepares to launch MDN Plus in March 2022

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I, for one, am encouraged to see Mozilla try and create new revenue streams. I hope I am not the lone positive voice in the thread - it does seem no company gets quite the same level of criticism as Mozilla on HN

I am puzzled why didn’t they lunch their own VPN to the world and instead got a rebranded one and it’s still restricted only to few countries. To me that’s another proof they’re just not great at operating.

Re: Mozilla prepares to launch MDN Plus in March 2022

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post #12
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English Summary: Free MDN isn't going away. MDN Plus is a premium content service that will offer deep dives into technical topics. The service was tested over the summer. Additional announced features include bookmarking across all of MDN, commenting, offline browsing, and themes. Price: USD10/month or USD100/year. Time frame: March 2022

I'm torn about this initiative. MDN should be governed by a foundation that can be funded directly , with content that is accessible for all. By introducing a paid service with private content, it will reduce incentives to contribute insightful documentation and guides to the free version.

Free content drivers people to the paid version. Is not like this model doesn't work. It's on every SaaS out there.

Having a big paying community will drive more free content, as both the paying and free customers benefit from it.

If free content start sucking, less people sign up.

Plus, some content just isn't worth privatizing, like documentation.

Re: Mozilla prepares to launch MDN Plus in March 2022

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> "Monthly articles with special depth on specific topics from industry experts as well as features to get more out of the MDN Web Docs" ... "includes the ability to use the MDN Web Docs offline, to create your own personal collection that you can access from any device, to be notified of changes to certain articles, and themes" I'm not particularly impressed. Does anyone really want to pay for the modern version of…

We're swamped with blogspam. I already attach "mozilla" or "mdn" to some searches, like some people attach "reddit", because information about base web technology is far better there than on w3cschools or $random_medium_post

Re: Mozilla prepares to launch MDN Plus in March 2022

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I am really excited to see Mozilla actually moving forward on revenue diversification in a way that adds value to the technical community (VPN, Relay, MDN Plus).

Back when I was managing one of the security teams at Mozilla there was an attempt to build out some revenue diversification options, and one of the areas I was involved with was developer services, basically offering paid, hosted versions of the open source tools we were already building and using (web compat, security and testing services, etc) that could be used by developers. It never got off the ground, and the lack of traction was one of the reasons I left; I view my failure to succeed in my attempts there as one my biggest professional let downs :(

I want to think that it sounds like some of Mozilla's leadership has finally gotten out of the way of the folks that are doing awesome work, and it makes me hopeful for the future of the project and the Mozilla mission.

Congrats to the teams behind these services!

Re: Mozilla prepares to launch MDN Plus in March 2022

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post #7

I, for one, am encouraged to see Mozilla try and create new revenue streams. I hope I am not the lone positive voice in the thread - it does seem no company gets quite the same level of criticism as Mozilla on HN

>I hope I am not the lone positive voice in the thread - it does seem no company gets quite the same level of criticism as Mozilla on HN

That's what happens when you go around with a holier-than-thou attitude: they set high standars for the industry when they themselves fail to meet those standards every time.

Re: Mozilla prepares to launch MDN Plus in March 2022

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Not against it as long as the basics remain free.

I don't think I would be interested in the content that much (unless they go way beyond the usual FE articles), but I'll happily pay $100 a year in support of MDN/Firefox.

Even though I don't use Firefox it has an important role imo. I use MDN almost daily and I get lots of value out of it. I fully support them trying out new revenue streams.

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