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All baptisms performed by Phoenix priest invalid because he changed one word

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Re: All baptisms performed by Phoenix priest invalid because he changed one word

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Post by jleyank »

“I”, “We”…. These pedants sound like the Pharisees Jesus preached against. Also, 3-into-1 as a doctrine can lead to confusion, unless 2/3 of them don’t participate in baptism.

How to turn people against formal religion.

I always thought that if one approached a sacrament with an open, honest and clear conscience that the action was valid. Conversely, if you follow the form with a hard, closed heart it’s invalid. Guess there’s a lot of souls in the deep who are in trouble unless the ship’s captain had the correct form.

Re: All baptisms performed by Phoenix priest invalid because he changed one word

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Post by nickysielicki »

Catholicism is dying. Even my grandmas friends, devout Polish immigrants, are willing to express some confusion and doubt about the direction of Catholic dogma after a few drinks. If you take the religion seriously, it just doesn’t make sense anymore.

It isn’t even really Catholic dogma anymore to assert that the Catholic Church is the only path to salvation. The Pope regularly talks about Christians broadly and defends Protestantism. For those of us that were taught differently, we just kind of nod our heads and take the gaslighting.

Some priest dropped one word and it’s going to cause a lot of strife for the Catholics in phoenix that were impacted. Yet we went from prayers in Latin to every language under the sun and nobody bats an eye at what was lost in translation there? There are a lot of (now outdated) catechisms that warned against this.

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Post by benjamir »

WalterGR wrote: post #10

Even worse, if one of the partners in a marriage was baptised by this priest, and the marriage was performed by the Catholic church, they may need to get re-married . “The error also means that because baptism is the first of the sacraments, some people will need to repeat other sacraments, according to the diocese webpage for frequently asked questions.” “According to the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops…

Yeah, otherwise HRH will be very disappointed in heaven. Look, Petrus is standing there and only ever to let you in if the rituals were done in order. Otherwise... no luck for you... straight to hell.

Says an intuition full of child groppers.

Re: All baptisms performed by Phoenix priest invalid because he changed one word

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Post by egberts1 »

WalterGR wrote: post #9
egberts1 wrote: post #5

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The article is on NBC, not MSNBC. I don’t see a paywall. Are you sure you didn’t miss the “Continue reading” button? Do you have JavaScript disabled?

Firefox on iOS. no continue button. Alas one less reader

Re: All baptisms performed by Phoenix priest invalid because he changed one word

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Post by krapp »

kelseyfrog wrote: post #2

Wow. Imagine if this happened with the Bible instead. The implications would be enormous.

A run of Bibles printed in 1631 accidentally omitted "not" from the commandment "thou shalt not commit adultery." All of the copies were burned and the printer was fined and lost his printing license[0]. Apparently it happens a lot[1].

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_Bible

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_errata

Re: All baptisms performed by Phoenix priest invalid because he changed one word

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Post by kelseyfrog »

krapp wrote: post #17
kelseyfrog wrote: post #2

Wow. Imagine if this happened with the Bible instead. The implications would be enormous.

A run of Bibles printed in 1631 accidentally omitted "not" from the commandment "thou shalt not commit adultery." All of the copies were burned and the printer was fined and lost his printing license[0]. Apparently it happens a lot[1]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_Bible [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_errata

And that's just one that they caught. How many invalid bibles are lurking on peoples' nightstands unknowingly rendering their readers' faith invalid?

Re: All baptisms performed by Phoenix priest invalid because he changed one word

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Post by microtherion »

benjamir wrote: post #13

Thank god that they "decided" in 2007 that there isn't a limbus for unbaptised babies anymore.

That was my reaction as well. Picture a benevolent deity condemning you to eternal suffering because the priest used a wrong word in their protective spell…
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