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Post by toolz »

karpierz wrote: post #6
busymom0 wrote: post #2

> Canada is now regulating crowdfunding platforms and crypto currency under the Terrorist Financing Act. https://twitter.com/TrueNorthCentre/status/14933475618764718... > As of today, financial institutions with be “authorized or directed” to “prohibit the use of property” or freeze accounts - personal or corporate- if the institution suspects that the account holder is financing illegal blockades. https://twitter.co…

Under the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) and Terrorist Financing Act. Which specific regulatory laws would you expect them to be handled under?

Protesting is only a crime in authoritarian states. Canadians have the right to assembly and expression explicitly stated in the charter of rights.

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Post by ameminator »

Shameful that a peaceful protest is met with this response. How can a person protest meaningfully if any peaceful protest can be called illegal?

I do understand that the truckers were disturbing the peace of ordinary people - I think this should be discouraged. However there must be a way to peacefully assemble without the government's approval.

I don't see how we can have meaningful civil discourse if you need permission to protest at all.

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busymom0 wrote: post #2

> Canada is now regulating crowdfunding platforms and crypto currency under the Terrorist Financing Act. https://twitter.com/TrueNorthCentre/status/14933475618764718... > As of today, financial institutions with be “authorized or directed” to “prohibit the use of property” or freeze accounts - personal or corporate- if the institution suspects that the account holder is financing illegal blockades. https://twitter.co…

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Post by itslennysfault »

vorpalhex wrote: post #8

> The Emergencies Act is the modern-day replacement to the War Measures Act. It allows the federal government to force companies to provide services, it can require public protests to end, and limit mobility rights by preventing people from moving to designating areas. > > The act also allows for the military to be used as police, but several sources said that is not under active consideration. Not a good look for Tr…

Yeeeeeah, I don't know about that. Anyone with their truck there risks forfeiting the asset that was used in commission of a crime. AKA their livelihood and likely most expensive asset. There is certainly not a bottomless pit of people wishing to do that.

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Post by barbazoo »

vorpalhex wrote: post #8

> The Emergencies Act is the modern-day replacement to the War Measures Act. It allows the federal government to force companies to provide services, it can require public protests to end, and limit mobility rights by preventing people from moving to designating areas. > > The act also allows for the military to be used as police, but several sources said that is not under active consideration. Not a good look for Tr…

What should be done differently? In Alberta restrictions have been lifted but the occupation of the border still hasn't ended.

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Post by whdm2000 »

There seems to be a trend in our newly tyrannical governments of using war and terrorism acts on their own citizens. It feels strange being subject tyranny for the first time in my life here in Australia. It is the first time in my life I have felt a government just threaten and bully people to get whatever it wants. There is no going back from this, whoever may win.

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Post by 650 »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Canadian_pipeline_and_rai...

"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said politicians should not be telling the police how to deal with protesters and that resolution should come through dialogue"

Millions of dollars in damage by these protestors (railway above). Protests for me, but not for thee.

Vaguely remember stuff like:

"Your right to freedom of speech stops where it harms others" (hate speech)

"Your right to bodily autonomy stops where you can harm others" (vax mandates)

"Your right to protest stops where ... ?"

These are all nuanced, sadly the Canadian government can override its Bill of Rights whenever they please under temporary 3 year Emergency Measures.

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Post by version_five »

It seems like (maybe it's a polarization thing) its becoming more common for all sides to want to go straight to the (thankfully only metaphorical) nuclear option to try and end situations. Everything is framed as an emergency or a human right or some other category that means its supposed to be dealt with in the harshest possible terms and admit no discussion. I don't just mean by government or a particular side, it's the kind of rhetoric used in every argument now.

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Post by filoleg »

ameminator wrote: post #12

Shameful that a peaceful protest is met with this response. How can a person protest meaningfully if any peaceful protest can be called illegal? I do understand that the truckers were disturbing the peace of ordinary people - I think this should be discouraged. However there must be a way to peacefully assemble without the government's approval. I don't see how we can have meaningful civil discourse if you need permi…

> How can a person protest meaningfully if any peaceful protest can be called illegal?

By protesting only against things that Trudeau himself supports protests against, obviously /s.

Unfortunately, it is only a halfway sarcasm, because it legitimately sounds like this is how it might go down.

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