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If this article is correct I hope that it will get incorporated into public policy swiftly.
If this article is correct I hope that it will get incorporated into public policy swiftly.
Ego and the belief it could be used against them in campaigns this year will keep most politicians from allowing a change in public health policy due to the results in the paper. "We need more studies" likely will be how they proceed though there's a chance they'll simply try to discredit the authors and discourage anyone else from finding similar results.
If this article is correct I hope that it will get incorporated into public policy swiftly.
The rhetoric has moved on to "prevents severe infection" as the reason you have to prove you've been vaccinated.
I find it hard to think these restrictions can be justified as a public safety measure if they don't lower transmission. Limiting severe infection is up to the individual. They seem more like coercion to me. I think the government should be in the business of education not coercion. I'm triple vaccinated because I think it's the best choice for me, yet I have no right to make that choice for anyone else.
(I am triple vaccinated, for the record)
At this point it’s hard to see vaccine mandates (certainly without alternative options such as proof of recent infection/recovery or recent/regular negative test) as anything but punitive against the unvaccinated. (I am triple vaccinated, for the record)
* I am triple vaccinated
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The rhetoric has moved on to "prevents severe infection" as the reason you have to prove you've been vaccinated.
Okay. I'm not sure about the United States but here in NZ you can't enter a restaurant if you don't have a vaccine. You can't attend a funeral with over 25 people while unvaccinated. You can't attend or have a wedding with over 25 people. I find it hard to think these restrictions can be justified as a public safety measure if they don't lower transmission. Limiting severe infection is up to the individual. They seem…
At this point it’s hard to see vaccine mandates (certainly without alternative options such as proof of recent infection/recovery or recent/regular negative test) as anything but punitive against the unvaccinated. (I am triple vaccinated, for the record)
The only logical reason at this point to mandate vaccines is if you wanted to remove the control group from the great human experiment. Or just see how far you can push your population. * I am triple vaccinated
If this article is correct I hope that it will get incorporated into public policy swiftly.
This is not an article, it’s correspondence (e.g. what one guy thinks about some other articles he’s read). Plus, the articles being discussed have very small sample sizes.
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Ego and the belief it could be used against them in campaigns this year will keep most politicians from allowing a change in public health policy due to the results in the paper. "We need more studies" likely will be how they proceed though there's a chance they'll simply try to discredit the authors and discourage anyone else from finding similar results.
But this isn’t even a study - it’s one person’s interpretation of a variety of studies, none of which directly show what he is suggesting. In this case, more research is literally needed to have any sort of answer to the question the author is bringing up.
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Okay. I'm not sure about the United States but here in NZ you can't enter a restaurant if you don't have a vaccine. You can't attend a funeral with over 25 people while unvaccinated. You can't attend or have a wedding with over 25 people. I find it hard to think these restrictions can be justified as a public safety measure if they don't lower transmission. Limiting severe infection is up to the individual. They seem…
i'm not vaccinated and will not be getting the jab, and i think vaccine mandates are a laughably bad idea, but you could easily just say less severe disease = less pressure on public health systems and "justify" it that way.
On the flip side, there are so few unvaccinated now, that I don't know how big of an effect the measures have with regards to unvaccinated restrictions.
Having said that, personally I've not had any issues with the current restrictions, they don't impact what I would usually do. But I'm probably the exception, not the rule when it comes to unvaxed people. I'm of mostly of the opinion, the restrictions are of a net positive for us, if you're not vaxxed I would avoid gatherings, especially indoors. Seems kinda reckless if you're going to parties etc while unvaxxed.
*not vaccinated, mostly because I don't socialise much so don't see the need, not until I want to fly. I see it as, the longer I can wait, the more we'll know about the vaccine, and hopefully there will be better (more effective) options.