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Corrected identification of object about to hit the moon

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Re: Corrected identification of object about to hit the moon

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Post by iqanq »

cheschire wrote: post #8
iqanq wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is surprising is that in 2022 people believe everything that they read.

It’s surprising, as GP said, how little verification was made by news outlets. Chastising people for believing “everything” simply because they believed this is a different matter. Especially when otherwise reputable sources such as ESA post the information. https://www.esa.int/Safety_Security/Space_Debris/Incoming!_D...

The media and organisations like the ESA have their biases and agendas.

Re: Corrected identification of object about to hit the moon

#12

Post by taneq »

bruce343434 wrote: post #4
kortilla wrote: post #2

It’s quite surprising how little verification went into the original claim that it was a falcon 9 before the outpouring of standard anti-Elon driven outrage.

There's a relevant Dutch saying here, "high trees catch a lot of wind"

If you're not making anyone mad, you're probably not doing anything important.

Re: Corrected identification of object about to hit the moon

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Post by radu_floricica »

cmeacham98 wrote: post #10
kortilla wrote: post #2

It’s quite surprising how little verification went into the original claim that it was a falcon 9 before the outpouring of standard anti-Elon driven outrage.

I didn't participate in any outrage (actually, I'm behind here, this post was the first I'd heard of this story), but this seems like a particularly uncharitable take. The story came from an otherwise-reputable source that made a mistake. Your average person (including even most space enthusiasts) doesn't have the knowledge and expertise to check it themselves other than seeing what other astronomers have to say, and…

Parent may or may not be trying to assign blame, but they do make a very salient observation: there is, as a rule, very little verification from initial reporting to strong global reaction. And that's a rule, not something having to do with this particular instance.

Re: Corrected identification of object about to hit the moon

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

cmeacham98 wrote: post #10
kortilla wrote: post #2

It’s quite surprising how little verification went into the original claim that it was a falcon 9 before the outpouring of standard anti-Elon driven outrage.

I didn't participate in any outrage (actually, I'm behind here, this post was the first I'd heard of this story), but this seems like a particularly uncharitable take. The story came from an otherwise-reputable source that made a mistake. Your average person (including even most space enthusiasts) doesn't have the knowledge and expertise to check it themselves other than seeing what other astronomers have to say, and…

No, but you can wait a few days and reserve judgement until it's confirmed by several sources. It's not like it something you need or could act on.

Today, the news arrive fast, and the reaction to the news is instant.

On the other hand, after several years of covid crisis, my opinion on the whole thing is very much in flux, and when I discuss it with people, I don't give definitive statements, nor raise an outrage.

So yes, the reaction here seems it could be a problem... if confirmed :)

Re: Corrected identification of object about to hit the moon

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Post by gameswithgo »

iqanq wrote: post #11
cheschire wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s surprising, as GP said, how little verification was made by news outlets. Chastising people for believing “everything” simply because they believed this is a different matter. Especially when otherwise reputable sources such as ESA post the information. https://www.esa.int/Safety_Security/Space_Debris/Incoming!_D...

The media and organisations like the ESA have their biases and agendas.

yes the well known moon trash agenda of the far … uhhh

Re: Corrected identification of object about to hit the moon

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Post by gostsamo »

cheschire wrote: post #8
iqanq wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is surprising is that in 2022 people believe everything that they read.

It’s surprising, as GP said, how little verification was made by news outlets. Chastising people for believing “everything” simply because they believed this is a different matter. Especially when otherwise reputable sources such as ESA post the information. https://www.esa.int/Safety_Security/Space_Debris/Incoming!_D...

This is not something reported by ESA astronomers but a PR piece about recent news, relevant history, and pointing how ESA does it. The article explicitly links to its source about the attribution.

Re: Corrected identification of object about to hit the moon

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Post by itsoktocry »

kortilla wrote: post #2

It’s quite surprising how little verification went into the original claim that it was a falcon 9 before the outpouring of standard anti-Elon driven outrage.

>standard anti-Elon driven outrage.

Elon Musk might be the most lionized individual on planet earth. It's hilarious people think the love/hate for him is unbalanced, or that he's "picked on".

Re: Corrected identification of object about to hit the moon

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Post by iqanq »

gameswithgo wrote: post #16
iqanq wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The media and organisations like the ESA have their biases and agendas.

yes the well known moon trash agenda of the far … uhhh

The fact that they have published this without even verifying it is the best proof that they have a bias or even an agenda, yes.
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