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Dino 0.3: Video calls and conferences – encrypted and peer-to-peer

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Re: Dino 0.3: Video calls and conferences – encrypted and peer-to-peer

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Post by andrey_utkin »

skyfaller wrote: post #3

Ever since Google Talk stopped supporting Jabber, I quickly ran out of anyone to talk with. I talk with friends on Signal, I talk with FOSS projects on IRC or Matrix, and I occasionally set up ad-hoc video conferences using Jitsi Meet, but I have zero Jabber contacts left. If you use Jabber today, who are you talking to and on what server(s)?

Family and a few friends, on own server.

It seems to be a good fit for families. Or rather, families are a good fit for any sane, sustainable technology. Long span of time, lots of mutual transparency, plenty of in-group communication inside and outside the chat technology.

No problems characteristic for big-tech (account seizures, hardware platform restrictions). No problems characteristic for free-for-all public servers (spam, vandalism).

Re: Dino 0.3: Video calls and conferences – encrypted and peer-to-peer

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Post by zaik »

dgrin91 wrote: post #14

It looks like Dino is built on top of XMPP. How can you be both XMPP and peer to peer? Doesn't XMPP mean there is a server in the middle (even if its not centralized)?

The server is used to exchange connection information. The A/V call itsef is peer to peer (or relayed via TURN server if they cannot establish a direct connection).

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Post by NTARelix »

dgrin91 wrote: post #14

It looks like Dino is built on top of XMPP. How can you be both XMPP and peer to peer? Doesn't XMPP mean there is a server in the middle (even if its not centralized)?

> Calls are end-to-end encrypted and use a direct connection between the peers whenever possible, but fallbacks are also in place.

I imagine this means the 2+ clients use XMPP to negotiate direct connections to one another that are better suited for audio/video streaming.

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Post by zaik »

skyfaller wrote: post #3

Ever since Google Talk stopped supporting Jabber, I quickly ran out of anyone to talk with. I talk with friends on Signal, I talk with FOSS projects on IRC or Matrix, and I occasionally set up ad-hoc video conferences using Jitsi Meet, but I have zero Jabber contacts left. If you use Jabber today, who are you talking to and on what server(s)?

Since WhatsApp changed its ToS last year I deleted all messaging apps except Conversations and started using XMPP exclusively. Basically everyone I talk to regulary is now reachable via XMPP.

Re: Dino 0.3: Video calls and conferences – encrypted and peer-to-peer

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Post by messe »

otachack wrote: post #2

For a second I thought I read "Deno" instead of "Dino" and got extremely confused at why Deno was going into the video chat space. Anyways, nice milestone for Dino! I still gotta try out the solution one day.

Same, I thought maybe the latest Deno version had enhanced WebRTC support or something of that ilk.

Re: Dino 0.3: Video calls and conferences – encrypted and peer-to-peer

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Post by toastercat »

xiaomai wrote: post #10

I run a group chat for my family. I recently switched my server from running plain Prosody to Snikket. People with phones use the Snikket android app, but my kids that are too young for phones join in with Dino. Dino is a really nice client. Snikket is pretty good as a phone client... I think maybe there is a way to get push notifications working through the standard Android infrastructure which would be an improveme…

> but my kids that are too young for phones join in with Dino

Curious about this, since it seems to imply your kids use Linux desktops. How has that worked out?

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