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CERN press release regarding neutrino experiment

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Re: CERN press release regarding neutrino experiment

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Guys, I'm sorry I missed this recent news but I've a question that I hope some people can answer for me. So does this mean that Einstein's theory might not hold? Do we see any well-established theories break as result of this? I'm totally naive about this but curious so any answers will be appreciated.

To be honest, it's most likely someone making a mistake or equipment failure or something. We'll just have to wait and see if someone else can replicate it.

equipment miscalibration, not failure. unless i'm misreading it, the results of these experiments show consistent FTL speeds across 3 years.

Re: CERN press release regarding neutrino experiment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be honest, it's most likely someone making a mistake or equipment failure or something. We'll just have to wait and see if someone else can replicate it.

equipment miscalibration, not failure. unless i'm misreading it, the results of these experiments show consistent FTL speeds across 3 years.

Right, my bad.

Re: CERN press release regarding neutrino experiment

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be honest, it's most likely someone making a mistake or equipment failure or something. We'll just have to wait and see if someone else can replicate it.

Actually, this may be a good thing if the experiments turn out to be correct. There has been a lot of difficulty integrating gravity into the current theories to get a Grand Unified Theory/TOE. Maybe this will make physicists think about other novel ideas.

Possibly, but it's best to not get excited over results are this surprising. At least until someone else can duplicate them :-P

Re: CERN press release regarding neutrino experiment

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From the release, there's a live webcast going on right now (16:00 CEST, Sept 23) at: http://webcast.cern.ch/

Just watched the tail part of it. I have no clue what they were saying 99% of the time.... but they sure seem thorough as fuck

Re: CERN press release regarding neutrino experiment

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From the release, there's a live webcast going on right now (16:00 CEST, Sept 23) at: http://webcast.cern.ch/

I so LOL'd when someone in the webinar pointed out that their measurement wasn't a vector so their paper should be titled neutrino speed not velocity. http://arxiv.org/abs/1109.4897

Re: CERN press release regarding neutrino experiment

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This press release is a perfect example of how to write a press release for a high-profile, possibly groundbreaking discovery. Understated, but still properly summarizes the importance of the result, and above all doesn't make any hysterical claims. Instead, it just presents the discovery, cites the paper, gives some background, grabs quotes from the scientists to show the reasoning behind their actions, and leaves i…

All true. But to be fair, you're praising the easy stuff. This is one of those one-in-a-career, truly groundbreaking results. They don't have to sell it. They just write it up in plain language and it sells itself.

Re: CERN press release regarding neutrino experiment

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A great article on various disagreements between Tesla's and Einstein's view of the physical world. http://www.writingriffs.com/2009/09/13/tesla-vs-einstein-tra... Will Tesla have the last laugh?

Not based on the linked article, which is horrible. I gave up when it was simultaneously trying to claim that the ether exists but space can have no properties.

Re: CERN press release regarding neutrino experiment

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post #17
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This press release is a perfect example of how to write a press release for a high-profile, possibly groundbreaking discovery. Understated, but still properly summarizes the importance of the result, and above all doesn't make any hysterical claims. Instead, it just presents the discovery, cites the paper, gives some background, grabs quotes from the scientists to show the reasoning behind their actions, and leaves i…

All true. But to be fair, you're praising the easy stuff. This is one of those one-in-a-career, truly groundbreaking results. They don't have to sell it. They just write it up in plain language and it sells itself.

Be that as it may, it wouldn't be the first time a scientist messed up the PR game. Galileo springs to mind.
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