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The future of education looks a lot like TikTok and Twitter

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Re: The future of education looks a lot like TikTok and Twitter

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enjoyyourlife wrote: post #5
disqard wrote: post #4

The breathless fanboyism in this piece really hurts it, and made me unable to read through to the end. If this were written 10 years ago, when MOOCs were the poster child for "technology will solve everything including thoroughly non-technology-centric human problems", it might be forgivable. Right now, this is kinda like evangelizing Zuckerberg's "Metaverse", in a 100% serious vein. If it were written a different wa…

With regards to the MOOCs prediction, it is true that most education has switched online

You might technically be correct, but that doesn't change the fact that "the Godfather of MOOCs" called it "a lousy product":

> “We were on the front pages of newspapers and magazines, and at the same time, I was realizing, we don’t educate people as others wished, or as I wished. We have a lousy product,” Thrun tells me. “It was a painful moment.” Turns out he doesn’t even like the term MOOC.

https://www.fastcompany.com/3021473/udacity-sebastian-thrun-...

Re: The future of education looks a lot like TikTok and Twitter

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Post by windows2020 »

The year is 3000. Your lawyer, trained by entertainers and TikTok clips, fails to stay focused because the courtroom isn't gamified. You're suing your bootcamp accredited doctor for malpractice. Too bad exams were eliminated.

OK, that's a take on one end of a spectrum. The article does have some valuable examples. I'm excited that things are evolving. But, sometimes, learning is tough, requires perseverance and offers no quick reward... perhaps similar to the challenges it may be applied against.

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Post by hericium »

windows2020 wrote: post #12

The year is 3000. Your lawyer, trained by entertainers and TikTok clips, fails to stay focused because the courtroom isn't gamified. You're suing your bootcamp accredited doctor for malpractice. Too bad exams were eliminated. OK, that's a take on one end of a spectrum. The article does have some valuable examples. I'm excited that things are evolving. But, sometimes, learning is tough, requires perseverance and offer…

3000 seems very generous. Look how fast the dumbing down pointed out by the movie Idiocracy is progressing. It was supposed to be 500 years...

Re: The future of education looks a lot like TikTok and Twitter

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Post by rjkeck2 »

bavent wrote: post #6

They discuss the importance of engagement, something CS50 gets right - so how does that have anything to do with short-form content? I think the beauty of things like CS50 is the engagement, but also the longer format of it. A lot of shit just can’t be broken down into a tweet or a 10-second video. I wouldn’t call anything that I’ve seen from TikTok “engaging” - the videos are over before my attention span has time t…

There’s one example of short-form in this entire article. In fact, right after mentioning CS50, I started discussing cohort-based, long-form content (Maven, Skillshare, and Superpeer). There’s no binary “short-form is the only way” here.

Re: The future of education looks a lot like TikTok and Twitter

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Post by rjkeck2 »

disqard wrote: post #4

The breathless fanboyism in this piece really hurts it, and made me unable to read through to the end. If this were written 10 years ago, when MOOCs were the poster child for "technology will solve everything including thoroughly non-technology-centric human problems", it might be forgivable. Right now, this is kinda like evangelizing Zuckerberg's "Metaverse", in a 100% serious vein. If it were written a different wa…

Who am I fanboying?

Re: The future of education looks a lot like TikTok and Twitter

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Post by rjkeck2 »

lifeplusplus wrote: post #10

people learn differently and some topics are better suited to certain mediums, but personally I learn best by very concise lesson with interactions (Q/A) sprinkled everywhere, (think of regular conversation), then do concentrated reading/analysis own my own but be able to reach out to an expert with questions at anytime and asking highly articulated questions and get very in depth and unambiguous answers

Have you tried something like Superpeer before? I think 1:1 instruction is going to continue to grow as a space as there are quite a few people who feel the same as you!

Re: The future of education looks a lot like TikTok and Twitter

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Post by rjkeck2 »

This is what I get for trying out a clickbaity headline for once…the majority of the article is about cohort-based platforms like Maven and immersive tools like Replit. I give one short-form example because I do think it has a place in education going forward but if you read the whole article you’d see there’s more than that there.

Re: The future of education looks a lot like TikTok and Twitter

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Post by tablespoon »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #8

I feel like in 50 years we'll look back and realize that the loss of frequent, face-to-face, in-person human contact has caused immeasurable damage, along the lines of how we've realized highly processed foods and have caused a health and obesity epidemic. But I suppose it will get worse before it gets better.

> I feel like in 50 years we'll look back and realize that the loss of frequent, face-to-face, in-person human contact has caused immeasurable damage, along the lines of how we've realized highly processed foods and have caused a health and obesity epidemic. But I suppose it will get worse before it gets better.

Or it could just stay worse, even after the realization. There are all kinds of people who realize something they do is hurting or even killing them, and keep doing it anyway.

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