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Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

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Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

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Post by rsoto »

Twitter has been an absolute mess over the last few years. Through the explore tab, they aggressively promote topics that I have no interest in: k-pop, fashion, reality TV, telenovelas and birthdays. And there's no way to tell them that I don't really care about those topics, you can't even hide them.

The trending topics used to be a very good way to know what's happening. Being the pulse of the planet was achieved. Nowadays, the trending topics are heavily abused. When a streamer or an influencer does something, there's usually 6 or 7 trending topics all related to that person.

And then there are the spoilers. Every major movie release has the name of the characters or actors right in your home page the very same day of the premiere. I had to permanently hide them in my browser, and I've been reducing the usage of Twitter in my phone. I'm very tempted to uninstall it from it and use it only in a PC, although I don't see myself closing my account.

And even though they're alienating a big part of their user base by promoting topics that clearly drive their numbers, they're still not reaching their goals. I wonder what they'll do next.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

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Post by ribosometronome »

hunterb123 wrote: post #6
michaelmcdonald wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure you can! Michigan has a ban on smoking indoors and business grew for just about every bar and restaurant! Just gotta ban the right people. From what I can tell Twitter is doing that; but their business model is terrible and the platform is clunky. Their lack of growth has nothing to do with banning people.

> Their lack of growth has nothing to do with banning people. Doesn't seem like that as their competitors that have sprung up are solely from conservatives being banned. Banning smoking !== banning dissenters, your analogy has a false equivalency for multiple reasons, I wouldn't use them for debates if I were you, just teaching. - edit because of post limit - @cheriot: Enough users for you to know about them. Competi…

Do you think HackerNews would be a friendly place for the type of behavior that has resulted in folk being banned from Twitter?

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

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Post by ketzo »

hunterb123 wrote: post #6
michaelmcdonald wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure you can! Michigan has a ban on smoking indoors and business grew for just about every bar and restaurant! Just gotta ban the right people. From what I can tell Twitter is doing that; but their business model is terrible and the platform is clunky. Their lack of growth has nothing to do with banning people.

> Their lack of growth has nothing to do with banning people. Doesn't seem like that as their competitors that have sprung up are solely from conservatives being banned. Banning smoking !== banning dissenters, your analogy has a false equivalency for multiple reasons, I wouldn't use them for debates if I were you, just teaching. - edit because of post limit - @cheriot: Enough users for you to know about them. Competi…

Are we calling Gab/Parler “competition” now? Do they even have revenue, let alone profit?

Seems like a big reach, bordering on disingenuous, to attribute Twitter user growth/revenue slowdown to conservatives mad about being “unfairly censored”. Twitter

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

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Post by oh_sigh »

mrweasel wrote: post #5

Is there some reason articles like this doesn't include profits? Revenue is specified along with a number of other key metrics, but not profit. The overall conclusion seems to be the same as with Meta last week: It's going well, but not as well as predicted. The slower than expected growth is only a problem, because the stock market likes predictability and will punish any company unable to correctly foresee the futu…

Profit isn't very meaningful without a lot of context. A growing business could plow all of their would-be profits back into growing their business, making it look like they are losing money. Or a failing business could cannibalize itself to get a couple quarters of profits at the cost of destroying its long term prospects for success. Revenue is a much more concrete figure that sort of tells its own story, unlike profit.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

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Post by cheriot »

mrweasel wrote: post #5

Is there some reason articles like this doesn't include profits? Revenue is specified along with a number of other key metrics, but not profit. The overall conclusion seems to be the same as with Meta last week: It's going well, but not as well as predicted. The slower than expected growth is only a problem, because the stock market likes predictability and will punish any company unable to correctly foresee the futu…

> punish any company unable to correctly foresee the future

If you're calculating the present value of future profits and the rate of increase in profits declines then the present value can swing wildly. That's not "punishment". It's the market self correcting.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

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Post by xwdv »

sydthrowaway wrote: post #12

It beggars belief that people don't think the numbers from any of these companies are completely fraudulent. Has anyone been on Twitter? Bots, spam, etc.

Aye, Twitter seems to be mostly a social network for bots and people’s scripts to talk to each other. Very few real humans posting original thoughts. Maybe celebrity types use it as an easy way to get a word out, but not the common man. Fascinating.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

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Post by cheriot »

hunterb123 wrote: post #6
michaelmcdonald wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure you can! Michigan has a ban on smoking indoors and business grew for just about every bar and restaurant! Just gotta ban the right people. From what I can tell Twitter is doing that; but their business model is terrible and the platform is clunky. Their lack of growth has nothing to do with banning people.

> Their lack of growth has nothing to do with banning people. Doesn't seem like that as their competitors that have sprung up are solely from conservatives being banned. Banning smoking !== banning dissenters, your analogy has a false equivalency for multiple reasons, I wouldn't use them for debates if I were you, just teaching. - edit because of post limit - @cheriot: Enough users for you to know about them. Competi…

How many active users do Gab and Parlor have?
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