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Ask HN: Has anyone sold their employee stock on the secondary market?

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Re: Ask HN: Has anyone sold their employee stock on the secondary market?

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Usually, they'll have to, since such stock is usually conditioned on you granting the employer the Right of First Refusal (i.e. the chance to beat any offer from a buyer you find).

so basically... there is not a market, and it's a fake stock

Ownership is ownership. Your car isn't listed as a public company on the NYSE, but that doesn't mean your 1 share (worth 100%) in your car is fake.

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Not sure why this is Marked dead. Seems like a perfect question for this forum. I too would like to know the answer.

This forum is run by venture capitalists, which might have something to do with the question posed on this page.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone sold their employee stock on the secondary market?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Usually, they'll have to, since such stock is usually conditioned on you granting the employer the Right of First Refusal (i.e. the chance to beat any offer from a buyer you find).

so basically... there is not a market, and it's a fake stock

You do not need a formal market for stock to be stock. A share of stock represents ownership. You are confusing that with publicly traded stock markets.

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so basically... there is not a market, and it's a fake stock

No? If you can find a buyer for a certain amount, you can sell for that amount. The company can just opt to be the buyer.

This seems like an interesting dynamic because the company has to balance getting a random outside shareholder vs having to buy their own shares back for whatever price you negotiated.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Usually, they'll have to, since such stock is usually conditioned on you granting the employer the Right of First Refusal (i.e. the chance to beat any offer from a buyer you find).

so basically... there is not a market, and it's a fake stock

Please look up right of first refusal before posting nonsense like that.

It means they have to match the offer or let you sell. It’s exactly like a national best bid guarantee in a real market.

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I'm also curious if anyone has purchased secondary market shares and what that experience is like.

Bought uber, airbnb and reddit in 2018 on equidate/forgeglobal.

Structured as contracts for future stock from current employees that get transferred to you after the ipo (and usually 6 month lockup) are complete.

I got 100% of the uber stock (about 1x return) about 99.8% of the airbnb (about 2.5x return) and depending on if/when reddit ipos (was looking good for 10x a few months back but unlikely now) it will be interesting to see how much of the stock i get if it has gone up massively since initial purchase.

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I sold once with Equityzen and once with a different company, I forget the name. Both times were great, but it took years from start to finish. They’ll help you through the process. The fees were levels below the taxes, not bad at all. If you are interested and your company is listed on secondary sites, why not list some shares and see if anything comes through.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone sold their employee stock on the secondary market?

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Not sure why this is Marked dead. Seems like a perfect question for this forum. I too would like to know the answer.

This forum is run by venture capitalists, which might have something to do with the question posed on this page.

We don't moderate HN that way. I know that contradicts the default cynical view, but people should replace that view with the following alternative cynical view, which is more accurate:

(1) HN's only value to YC is the community; (2) the community only comes here to the extent that it finds HN interesting; (3) therefore, to optimize HN's value, we have to optimize it for being interesting. Moderating for parochial interest (e.g. suppressing things that some $ingroup doesn't like—VCs or whoever else) would make HN less interesting, so we don't.

We also don't do it because (a) it would be wrong and (b) it would feel bad, but those concerns don't belong in a cynical argument. YC's business interests, however, do belong in such an argument, and it's very much in YC's business interest to keep this community as happy as possible. That's a sort of miracle if you think about it—a freak of economic nature—so we should all enjoy it for as long as possible.

Past explanations in case anyone wants more:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23284262

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

p.s. The OP was originally killed by a software filter—those are tuned more aggressively for new accounts. Fortunately other users vouched for the post, which unkilled it long before mods saw it. That's the vouching feature working as intended. See https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html#cvouch.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone sold their employee stock on the secondary market?

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I'm also curious if anyone has purchased secondary market shares and what that experience is like.

Bought uber, airbnb and reddit in 2018 on equidate/forgeglobal. Structured as contracts for future stock from current employees that get transferred to you after the ipo (and usually 6 month lockup) are complete. I got 100% of the uber stock (about 1x return) about 99.8% of the airbnb (about 2.5x return) and depending on if/when reddit ipos (was looking good for 10x a few months back but unlikely now) it will be inte…

> it will be interesting to see how much of the stock i get if it has gone up massively since initial purchase.

You mean from the employees backing out somehow?

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