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GoFundMe Statement on the Freedom Convoy 2022 Fundraiser

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Re: GoFundMe Statement on the Freedom Convoy 2022 Fundraiser

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Post by Covzire »

jvol83 wrote: post #10

Apparently despite defacing many monuments around our capitol, blocking access for emergency services, desecrating the tomb of the unknown soldier by urinating on it, and literally throwing shit at a business because they had a pride flag up some people will still support these idiots. I don't care who you are - what your politics are or anything else, if you associate with a group who has done the things these "peac…

The vast majority of them are not doing any of those things; the vast majority just want the same basic bodily autonomy you do to opt out of experimental drugs they don't want or need.

Re: GoFundMe Statement on the Freedom Convoy 2022 Fundraiser

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Post by ren_engineer »

prvc wrote: post #8

>we will work with organizers to send all remaining funds to credible and established charities verified by GoFundMe. >All donors may submit a request for a full refund until February 19th, 2022 using this dedicated refund form. Even if we grant for the sake of argument that their decision not to disburse funds to the protests is justified, I don't understand why a legitimate business operating in good faith would no…

I don't see how this is even legal, GoFundMe is basically stealing the funds and doing whatever they want with them. Refunds should be automatic without an opt-in required. The fact they waited until Friday evening is even more sketchy.

If ever there was a use case for crypto and smart contracts a GoFundMe replacement would be it

Re: GoFundMe Statement on the Freedom Convoy 2022 Fundraiser

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Post by Covzire »

prvc wrote: post #8

>we will work with organizers to send all remaining funds to credible and established charities verified by GoFundMe. >All donors may submit a request for a full refund until February 19th, 2022 using this dedicated refund form. Even if we grant for the sake of argument that their decision not to disburse funds to the protests is justified, I don't understand why a legitimate business operating in good faith would no…

The charge-backs is what I'd really worry about if I were GoFundMe, besides the massive hit to their reputation they just inflicted on themselves of course.

Re: GoFundMe Statement on the Freedom Convoy 2022 Fundraiser

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Post by ghaks »

jvol83 wrote: post #10

Apparently despite defacing many monuments around our capitol, blocking access for emergency services, desecrating the tomb of the unknown soldier by urinating on it, and literally throwing shit at a business because they had a pride flag up some people will still support these idiots. I don't care who you are - what your politics are or anything else, if you associate with a group who has done the things these "peac…

What group? I've only seen plenty of peaceful footage. The "desecration" of the Fox statue was just a neat poster stuck between the arms. The "desecration" of the soldier monument was a woman walking on it.

The Confederate/Nazi flag groups were splinter groups of less than 10 people who may have been agent provocateurs.

The protests were more peaceful than BLM with burning buildings. The PM supported BLM, which says how much he cares about peaceful protests.

If this is the state of affairs, any demonstration can be discredited and defunded by organized groups of less than 100 people. This is extremely dangerous for democracy.

Re: GoFundMe Statement on the Freedom Convoy 2022 Fundraiser

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Post by zozbot234 »

ren_engineer wrote: post #13
prvc wrote: post #8

>we will work with organizers to send all remaining funds to credible and established charities verified by GoFundMe. >All donors may submit a request for a full refund until February 19th, 2022 using this dedicated refund form. Even if we grant for the sake of argument that their decision not to disburse funds to the protests is justified, I don't understand why a legitimate business operating in good faith would no…

I don't see how this is even legal, GoFundMe is basically stealing the funds and doing whatever they want with them. Refunds should be automatic without an opt-in required. The fact they waited until Friday evening is even more sketchy. If ever there was a use case for crypto and smart contracts a GoFundMe replacement would be it

> If ever there was a use case for crypto and smart contracts a GoFundMe replacement would be it

Right, then the money would literally disappear due to a random coding bug.

Re: GoFundMe Statement on the Freedom Convoy 2022 Fundraiser

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Post by jvol83 »

Covzire wrote: post #11
jvol83 wrote: post #10

Apparently despite defacing many monuments around our capitol, blocking access for emergency services, desecrating the tomb of the unknown soldier by urinating on it, and literally throwing shit at a business because they had a pride flag up some people will still support these idiots. I don't care who you are - what your politics are or anything else, if you associate with a group who has done the things these "peac…

The vast majority of them are not doing any of those things; the vast majority just want the same basic bodily autonomy you do to opt out of experimental drugs they don't want or need.

Irrelevent.

They are acting as a group. If anyone within the group had stopped the others, I would agree with you in principal, even if not fact. But they didn't, they stood by and watched or cheered. They enabled.

Literally throwing shit is not peaceful protest.

Urinating on a war memorial is not peaceful protest.

Blocking access for ambulances - potentially causing significant harm or death - is not peaceful protest.

Ottawa has peaceful protests all the time - this is not that.

Re: GoFundMe Statement on the Freedom Convoy 2022 Fundraiser

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Post by Covzire »

jvol83 wrote: post #17
Covzire wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The vast majority of them are not doing any of those things; the vast majority just want the same basic bodily autonomy you do to opt out of experimental drugs they don't want or need.

Irrelevent. They are acting as a group. If anyone within the group had stopped the others, I would agree with you in principal, even if not fact. But they didn't, they stood by and watched or cheered. They enabled. Literally throwing shit is not peaceful protest. Urinating on a war memorial is not peaceful protest. Blocking access for ambulances - potentially causing significant harm or death - is not peaceful protes…

Their livelihoods are being threatened by fascists who are lying about them constantly, Trudeau is calling them every name in the book, yet where is the evidence? Where exactly are you seeing all these things taking place? If you watch any of the man-on-the-street video streams you'll see an overwhelmingly peaceful protest taking place with the media constantly lying about them because they won't bow their knee to Pfizer and Moderna.

Re: GoFundMe Statement on the Freedom Convoy 2022 Fundraiser

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Post by nradov »

jvol83 wrote: post #17
Covzire wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The vast majority of them are not doing any of those things; the vast majority just want the same basic bodily autonomy you do to opt out of experimental drugs they don't want or need.

Irrelevent. They are acting as a group. If anyone within the group had stopped the others, I would agree with you in principal, even if not fact. But they didn't, they stood by and watched or cheered. They enabled. Literally throwing shit is not peaceful protest. Urinating on a war memorial is not peaceful protest. Blocking access for ambulances - potentially causing significant harm or death - is not peaceful protes…

I have no stake in this protest one way or the other but I'm curious how you expect the peaceful protesters to stop the bad actors? Ask them politely? Shoot them? Call the police?
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