App store bill sails out of Senate Judiciary Committee

Post by scarface74 » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 6:31 PM UTC

e4e78a06 wrote: post #6

stuff4ben wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tend to side with the tech companies (Apple in particular) due to the security issues and review process. It's not perfect and the cut seems excessive IMO, but there is value there that can't be dismissed outright. It'll be interesting to see how Apple and Google handle this. Maybe they'll allow side-loading with big, scary language? Or perhaps a cheaper or even free tier for developers to allow apps on their respe…

Android already has side loading, and Epic tried and failed to get a third party store going. I highly doubt this bill will do anything unless it mandates that Google can't mandate Google Play Store as a condition of receiving development support.

Post by scarface74 » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 6:32 PM UTC

realusername wrote: post #10

nojito wrote: post #8

I personally can’t wait for students to be forced to install apps from third party stores that collect all their information because their schools have a contract with the developers and have made it mandatory. Same will be true of employees and their employers.

That's already the case with the appstore. If you value privacy, don't install apps, use their website instead (ironically a free and open platform as well, there are lessons to be learned here)

Post by realusername » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 6:35 PM UTC

scarface74 wrote: post #13

realusername wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's already the case with the appstore. If you value privacy, don't install apps, use their website instead (ironically a free and open platform as well, there are lessons to be learned here)

It’s a lot easier to track your usage across websites than it is across apps.

Post by itg » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 6:37 PM UTC

stuff4ben wrote: post #4

chomp wrote: post #2

Sudden outbreak of common sense. I hope this passes and forces Google/Apple to justify the value that their app stores provide, for the amount that they take from developers.

I tend to side with the tech companies (Apple in particular) due to the security issues and review process. It's not perfect and the cut seems excessive IMO, but there is value there that can't be dismissed outright. It'll be interesting to see how Apple and Google handle this. Maybe they'll allow side-loading with big, scary language? Or perhaps a cheaper or even free tier for developers to allow apps on their respe…

Post by yepthatsreality » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 6:39 PM UTC

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #14

As an Apple user, I kind of view the App Store as a kind of collective bargaining with app developers. If you want to have access to Apple Users you need to adhere to certain standards. The plaintiffs in the lawsuit against Apple are some of the scummiest companies and their software is full of dark patterns. Apple’s App Store does a lot to protect me. I guess I view this bill much as a union member might view a “Rig…