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Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

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Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

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I'd argue that $5/month is quite high. Not because Signal isn't useful, but because the actual incurred cost per user is much, much lower. Of course, not everyone is going to pay. But if Signal were to ask users to pay, say $10 per year , i'm sure there'd be a lot more payers.

I'm in a third world country and even I would contribute $10 a year. I already contribute to Wikipedia on occasion. Making it monthly feels like too much of an obligation.

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

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I'd do this in a heartbeat if they would get rid of MobileCoin first.

That’s partly why I donate. If they get direct funds they’re hopefully less likely to turn to these scammy cryptocoins to keep the lights on

What you don't realise is that they will keep your donation AND their crypto.

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

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Reminder that Signal server source code is not fully released and the app is heavily dependent on google services to operate. Signal also takes measures against third party or unofficial apps. Whatever you say about privacy Signal is not an ally of user freedom.

These are not requirements for most messaging app users. I just want secure messaging. I don’t care if it’s open or interoperable. WhatsApp if it was run by a non profit.

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

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I want nice things, so I’m going to donate.

All those times when I’ve thought I would pay for service X if it meant not dealing with shitty dark pattern Y. Signal has kept their side of the deal, so now’s the time to pony up the dough.

This and stack exchange would top the list of things I’m willing to pay for.

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

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post #5

I'd argue that $5/month is quite high. Not because Signal isn't useful, but because the actual incurred cost per user is much, much lower. Of course, not everyone is going to pay. But if Signal were to ask users to pay, say $10 per year , i'm sure there'd be a lot more payers.

This argument always comes up, and the general conclusion is that the vast, vast, vast majority of people will never willingly donate a single penny. Those that will donate typically aren't price-sensitive.

I completely agree with you and would give, say, $12/year. But there's no way I'm giving $5/month. Luckily Signal also has a "booster" one-time donation option so I'm just going to "boost" twelve bucks. Maybe I'll remember to give again next February, who knows?

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

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Reminder that Signal server source code is not fully released and the app is heavily dependent on google services to operate. Signal also takes measures against third party or unofficial apps. Whatever you say about privacy Signal is not an ally of user freedom.

These are not requirements for most messaging app users. I just want secure messaging. I don’t care if it’s open or interoperable. WhatsApp if it was run by a non profit.

That's why I simply use whatsapp.

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

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post #5

I'd argue that $5/month is quite high. Not because Signal isn't useful, but because the actual incurred cost per user is much, much lower. Of course, not everyone is going to pay. But if Signal were to ask users to pay, say $10 per year , i'm sure there'd be a lot more payers.

Same, I thought about paying but $5 is over my "sure" threshold. $10/yr would be much, much easier.

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

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post #9
post #6

I'd do this in a heartbeat if they would get rid of MobileCoin first.

That’s partly why I donate. If they get direct funds they’re hopefully less likely to turn to these scammy cryptocoins to keep the lights on

That already happened, though.

I'd really, really like to support Signal, but unless they distance themselves from MobileCoin again, I can only assume they are in on it to a certain degree.

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

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I want nice things, so I’m going to donate. All those times when I’ve thought I would pay for service X if it meant not dealing with shitty dark pattern Y. Signal has kept their side of the deal, so now’s the time to pony up the dough. This and stack exchange would top the list of things I’m willing to pay for.

Has it? It kept source code outdated for a year while implementing support for an altcoin that their ex-CEO stands to profit from. All the while users were asking to implement stuff that's actually been requested for years.

I like Signal as a product but my opinion of the company making it has soured pretty substantially.

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