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YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

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Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

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First off, I'd like to see some additional proof that this isn't a hoax. There's other people in that thread claiming it's real, but I have yet to see anything other than the image posted.

Assuming it is real however, this is another baffling decision Youtube has made in recent months. I assume the thought behind this is to try maximize their walled garden in some way, but unlike other sites Youtube has such a long history of being embedded in external sites that they can't block all external access all at once. However, the main continued success of Youtube is arguably the emergence of new viral videos that boost new blood into a position of becoming a long-term profitable creator. This is being done in the name of "small creators" but it seems apparent this will have the opposite effect.

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

#12

Does anyone have more context? Or a link to a video showing this issue? This Reddit thread only seems to have a screenshot (though I didn’t scour the entire comment section). I’ve never seen this in the wild, and technically without a link I still haven’t seen it live at all. I’m wondering if the channel triggered some sort of anti-spam mechanism. EDIT: The only source I can find is from screenshots of right-wing Twi…

My guess is that the purpose is to prevent people from creating throwaway accounts that re-broadcast sport events, movies and so on.

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

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post #11

First off, I'd like to see some additional proof that this isn't a hoax. There's other people in that thread claiming it's real, but I have yet to see anything other than the image posted. Assuming it is real however, this is another baffling decision Youtube has made in recent months. I assume the thought behind this is to try maximize their walled garden in some way, but unlike other sites Youtube has such a long h…

> However, the main continued success of Youtube is arguably the emergence of new viral videos that boost new blood into a position of becoming a long-term profitable creator.

This appears to only be for live streams, not uploaded videos.

The livestream feature has been heavily abused to promoted cryptocurrency scams and rebroadcast copyright material (sports games), among other things. Livestreams are also likely the most computationally expensive videos (on a per-viewer basis) and tend to run for hours, unlike a 10-minute cacheable video.

Honestly this seems reasonable. They don’t want the platform to become a livestream free-for-all and they’re already under fire for hosting scams and misinformation content. Limiting the reach of livestreams from new accounts is fair.

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

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post #5

Does anyone have more context? Or a link to a video showing this issue? This Reddit thread only seems to have a screenshot (though I didn’t scour the entire comment section). I’ve never seen this in the wild, and technically without a link I still haven’t seen it live at all. I’m wondering if the channel triggered some sort of anti-spam mechanism. EDIT: The only source I can find is from screenshots of right-wing Twi…

Supposedly it is targeting a very specific type of content: medical mandate protest coverage. Unfortunately this is a plausible explanation. https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-capping-viewer-limits/

That interpretation is unclear from that source. It's at least equally likely that a feature to tamp down on rebroadcast of sporting events and such has fouled broadcast of protests.

Regardless of cause though, it would make YouTube a worse platform for live citizen journalism.

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to the Reddit comments, this is only for livestreams not for videos in general. I'd guess that the problem with livestreams in particular is that any kind of abuse prevention / moderation needs to be done in realtime, vs normal videos where it can reasonably be done either as a pre-pass or with a delay. How does limiting the number of viewers of a stream by a small channel help? Well, it means that stream w…

Seems reasonable. YouTube is a platform for content creators with some skin in the game. New accounts producing viral livestreams are a hotbed for spam and scams, such as the ubiquitous free cryptocurrency livestream scams. Frankly, I’m glad to see they’re doing something about it.

What you are asking for is already widely available: network television. I don't see how it is a good thing that Google has adopted more and more of the negative aspects of the old system, but they certainly have been busy doing so for the last few years.

You know a very good way to control what is and is not part of the public discourse? Allow only those with a lot to lose the privilege of speaking. Those creators with skin in the game will think twice about saying something that the "platform" doesn't like, and it isn't even censorship - it is self imposed, so nobody can complain about it.

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

#18
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Supposedly it is targeting a very specific type of content: medical mandate protest coverage. Unfortunately this is a plausible explanation. https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-capping-viewer-limits/

That interpretation is unclear from that source. It's at least equally likely that a feature to tamp down on rebroadcast of sporting events and such has fouled broadcast of protests. Regardless of cause though, it would make YouTube a worse platform for live citizen journalism.

> That interpretation is unclear from that source.

lol.

"Several livestreams posted on Google’s platform last weekend by truckers protesting in Canada have had their audience limited... This creator explained that they have had the channel for seven years, with 90 videos and several streams..."

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