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Joni Mitchell joins Neil Young in protest against Spotify

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Re: Joni Mitchell joins Neil Young in protest against Spotify

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I'll resist[0] the impulse to make fun of these artists as having an inflated sense of their own importance, and simply join others in noting that this kind of behavior shouldn't be tolerated. It sets a horrible precedent, no matter what one thinks about Joe Rogan. Edit: Too late now to save myself from downvote land, but I just spoke poorly. I meant it shouldn't be tolerated in the form of Spotify acquiescing to the…

It literally mirrors the plot to "Caddyshack": A couple of old, out of touch rich people throwing a tantrum because they have to share a club with a loud gregarious buffoon that's wildly popular with others.

"Out of touch"?

They are both survivors of childhood polio, making a very timely point about vaccinations.

[downvoted for this? really?]

Re: Joni Mitchell joins Neil Young in protest against Spotify

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I switched to Tidal last year. Spotify is notoriously one of the worst streaming services in terms of what it pays artists, and then there was this:

https://themusicessentials.com/news/daniel-ek-e100-million-i... (spotify ceo investing in AI weapons company).

While Tidal’s app is a little rough around the edges, and their auto-playlist stuff isn’t quite as smart, it has a solid catalogue and i’m pretty happy with it.

Re: Joni Mitchell joins Neil Young in protest against Spotify

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For Neil Young this actually might work out well financially. He gets more media exposure than he has had in 20, 30 years? I won't be surprised if his album sale 5x this year and his streams 10x. Whatever money he loses from not being on spotify will be made up on other services. He was the first so will be remembered for a while. Probably get invited to some events more readily. Not a comment on the Rogen or the mor…

> For Neil Young this actually might work out well financially.

He is 76 years old and worth $200M. I don't think he cares much about money at this point.

Re: Joni Mitchell joins Neil Young in protest against Spotify

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This is why I still buy music I like - either physical media, or DRM-free files I can archive away. It's more expensive and labor intensive to manage, but at least I don't have to worry about my music ever vanishing for one reason or another. Things like Spotify are useful for discovering new stuff, but I sort of like knowing that stuff I like will always be available for me to enjoy regardless of what's going on amo…

Same. Plus this way I’m paying the artists (directly, wherever possible).

Re: Joni Mitchell joins Neil Young in protest against Spotify

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I'll resist[0] the impulse to make fun of these artists as having an inflated sense of their own importance, and simply join others in noting that this kind of behavior shouldn't be tolerated. It sets a horrible precedent, no matter what one thinks about Joe Rogan. Edit: Too late now to save myself from downvote land, but I just spoke poorly. I meant it shouldn't be tolerated in the form of Spotify acquiescing to the…

It literally mirrors the plot to "Caddyshack": A couple of old, out of touch rich people throwing a tantrum because they have to share a club with a loud gregarious buffoon that's wildly popular with others.

sure, if the buffoon was spreading dangerous misinformation and misogyny.

Re: Joni Mitchell joins Neil Young in protest against Spotify

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I'll resist[0] the impulse to make fun of these artists as having an inflated sense of their own importance, and simply join others in noting that this kind of behavior shouldn't be tolerated. It sets a horrible precedent, no matter what one thinks about Joe Rogan. Edit: Too late now to save myself from downvote land, but I just spoke poorly. I meant it shouldn't be tolerated in the form of Spotify acquiescing to the…

Lol. People can’t take a stance? I think it’s well within their right to pull their music for what they believe in.

Re: Joni Mitchell joins Neil Young in protest against Spotify

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I'll resist[0] the impulse to make fun of these artists as having an inflated sense of their own importance, and simply join others in noting that this kind of behavior shouldn't be tolerated. It sets a horrible precedent, no matter what one thinks about Joe Rogan. Edit: Too late now to save myself from downvote land, but I just spoke poorly. I meant it shouldn't be tolerated in the form of Spotify acquiescing to the…

Why shouldn’t this behavior be tolerated? This is the response that they uniquely can make to protest for what they believe in. I do not condone censorship and I’m more concerned about the surgeon general suggesting that Spotify should censor Joe Rogan but these actions are also falling in the lines of free expression, which should be protected.

He certainly has a right to do that. No doubt

I wonder if Mr. Young will apply the same moral stringency to the rest of his distributors. I also wonder if his fans are aware of his own unscientific misinformation campaigns in regards to GMO foods.

I think most wonder - where does it end? What heterodox positions are tolerated and which ones aren’t? Especially in the context of something like a broad based music distributor.

Re: Joni Mitchell joins Neil Young in protest against Spotify

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I switched to Tidal last year. Spotify is notoriously one of the worst streaming services in terms of what it pays artists, and then there was this: https://themusicessentials.com/news/daniel-ek-e100-million-i... (spotify ceo investing in AI weapons company). While Tidal’s app is a little rough around the edges, and their auto-playlist stuff isn’t quite as smart, it has a solid catalogue and i’m pretty happy with it.

Thank you for sharing that article. It's convinced me to cancel my subscription as well.

Re: Joni Mitchell joins Neil Young in protest against Spotify

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It literally mirrors the plot to "Caddyshack": A couple of old, out of touch rich people throwing a tantrum because they have to share a club with a loud gregarious buffoon that's wildly popular with others.

sure, if the buffoon was spreading dangerous misinformation and misogyny.

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