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Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?

#11

I wonder if spam bots count in their monetizable daily active users count that Wall street looks for every quarter. Would sure explain a lot.

Does Wall Street still care about theoretically monetizable metrics like DAU from Twitter? I would think Wall Street is probably expecting real revenue and profit by now.

You would be surprised. I get all kind of "sophisticated" reddit IPO advice, where they are using Twitter DAU as a comparison.

Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?

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Option d: nobody outside of the Twitter TnS teams (including Paul Graham) has any idea of what Twitter is detecting as spam and what not, and thus can't actually judge how good a job is being done. First, we don't see the spam that was outright blocked, so we have no idea of what the false negative rate is. Second, I bet that this is not a binary block/allow decision, but there are all kinds of ways of reducing the e…

Just tweet metamask lol - its the magic word.

Edit: WARNING this will immediately fill your feed with spam. Don't click anything that you get.

Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?

#14
all over the place on twitter

https://twitter.com/EGYPTAIR/status/1487141414442053633

tons of these hacked accounts. They are gusseting thousands of passwords on thousands of accounts and cracking into some of them. So they may harvest 10,000 twitter usernames and then guess the same password on all of them , repeat this for 10,000 most common passwords. Eventually you will get some matches. Rate limiting and other simple measures would fix this.

Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?

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post #9

Option d: nobody outside of the Twitter TnS teams (including Paul Graham) has any idea of what Twitter is detecting as spam and what not, and thus can't actually judge how good a job is being done. First, we don't see the spam that was outright blocked, so we have no idea of what the false negative rate is. Second, I bet that this is not a binary block/allow decision, but there are all kinds of ways of reducing the e…

Just tweet metamask lol - its the magic word. Edit: WARNING this will immediately fill your feed with spam. Don't click anything that you get.

Huh? Can you explain this one, please?

Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?

#17
in the thread, someone links PG's filtering method, which claims 99.5% effectiveness? that would still be getting me 20+ spam emails a day at that rate

further, if you are trying to block, lets say, crypto scams, on a platform which allows strong positive discussion about crypto, which allows people to talk about stuff they are selling for crypto, etc etc etc, you easily start losing points to differentiate

the defender needs to classify every message on the site, in a way that allows detecting spam well after classification, while maintaining over a 99.8% rate these days, while aiming for a 0% false positive rate

the attacker just needs to type random messages at their keyboard and use reused passwords / buy client id/secrets from shitty devs, to get access to verified accounts

Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?

#18
post #9

Option d: nobody outside of the Twitter TnS teams (including Paul Graham) has any idea of what Twitter is detecting as spam and what not, and thus can't actually judge how good a job is being done. First, we don't see the spam that was outright blocked, so we have no idea of what the false negative rate is. Second, I bet that this is not a binary block/allow decision, but there are all kinds of ways of reducing the e…

Just tweet metamask lol - its the magic word. Edit: WARNING this will immediately fill your feed with spam. Don't click anything that you get.

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Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?

#19
post #9

Option d: nobody outside of the Twitter TnS teams (including Paul Graham) has any idea of what Twitter is detecting as spam and what not, and thus can't actually judge how good a job is being done. First, we don't see the spam that was outright blocked, so we have no idea of what the false negative rate is. Second, I bet that this is not a binary block/allow decision, but there are all kinds of ways of reducing the e…

Option E: Nobody can even agree on what Twitter spam is.

Is it bots? I follow a few bot accounts and get value out of them. Is it blatantly promotional content? This actually seems to be one of the intended uses of Twitter. Is it low-quality content? I feel like lots of people earnestly tweet out low-quality stuff, and who gets to judge what's low-quality anyway?

Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just tweet metamask lol - its the magic word. Edit: WARNING this will immediately fill your feed with spam. Don't click anything that you get.

Huh? Can you explain this one, please?

You'll immediately get replies from spam bots
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