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Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music
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Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music
#12Is this at all surprising? Spotify paid a lot of money to have Rogan on their platform because he (supposedly) makes them more money. Young gave a request of the "choose-him-or-me" variety, and Spotify honored that request. I doubt Young's body of work really amounts to much money for Spotify. Did Young really think that Spotify would drop Rogan over him? Would he have preferred to keep the status quo? I believe Youn…
I have no idea how popular Neil Young is, but I can imagine this can boost his popularity which then he can cash in somehow.
I imagine leaving the most popular streaming platform is going to be hurt financially in the long run.
Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music
#13This has to be viewed in the broader context of the censorship wars, and it has to be understood that EVERY major distribution platform is now owned/controlled/censored EXCEPT podcasts.
One of the only places in the world left that is mainstream and uncensored is audio podcasting.
Joe Rogan is public enemy #1, not necessarily for his content, but because he represents the largest and last stumbling block to full censorship and control. When Joe falls, the precedent is set, and all the other players in the podcast sphere are wiped out and censored within a matter of weeks and months.
You might say podcasts are uncensorable by nature, but that's just not true. They have been walled off and monetised, and that's a problem. Contractually and for owning your listeners.
And even if someone wants to host a podcast oldschool, RSS style, that's not going to fly. Most hosting services and payment processors feel they have to the right to not host content they don't agree with.
Ultimately Neil Young is just a loser pawn in a bigger game. A useful idiot if you will, because he will never live up to the standard he is advocating for if he lives another decade.
But he gets what he wants: social justice points. I just hope the investors in his catalog sue him for lost profits.
Anyway, make no mistake, this is the opening salvo, not game set match.
Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music
#14Good. Besides the obvious reason that Rogan draws far more money than washed up Neil, I'm sick of these authoritarians. If you disagree with people then state your opinion and factual objections. This idea that you should whine and cry until they get silenced is getting old. It's one of the most anti-American things I can think of. People are sick of it.
Additionally, coming from a dude that based his entire career on singing about the atrocities of government overreach, mob mentality etc. it's pretty disgusting to see him go this direction. It makes me think he really had no fucking clue what he was singing about and was just doing it because it seemed cool at the time.
Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music
#15Is this at all surprising? Spotify paid a lot of money to have Rogan on their platform because he (supposedly) makes them more money. Young gave a request of the "choose-him-or-me" variety, and Spotify honored that request. I doubt Young's body of work really amounts to much money for Spotify. Did Young really think that Spotify would drop Rogan over him? Would he have preferred to keep the status quo? I believe Youn…
> Did Young really think that Spotify would drop Rogan over him?
No, he's hoping that other artists will follow suit and that collectively they will choose the artists over Rogan. I don't see it happening, but open to being wrong.
Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music
#16Neil Young seems pretty on top of things, generally. You can buy any of his music DRM-free directly: https://store.neilyoungarchives.com/
Didn't know about this! Very cool. Hi-res too.
Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music
#17Is this at all surprising? Spotify paid a lot of money to have Rogan on their platform because he (supposedly) makes them more money. Young gave a request of the "choose-him-or-me" variety, and Spotify honored that request. I doubt Young's body of work really amounts to much money for Spotify. Did Young really think that Spotify would drop Rogan over him? Would he have preferred to keep the status quo? I believe Youn…
I'm not sure what a "win" in this case is, but it seems fair. I didn't genuinely get the impression that Young thought he'd push off Rogan, but rather really didn't want to be on the same platform as Rogan. I think he has that right, although I think most people raised in the social media era are more comfortable with sharing platforms with divergent views.
Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have no idea how popular Neil Young is, but I can imagine this can boost his popularity which then he can cash in somehow.
I imagine leaving the most popular streaming platform is going to be hurt financially in the long run.
Maybe not; Spotify is famous for how little they pay artists for song plays. Most artists seem to think of it as a marketing channel like radio, not a revenue source.
Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music
#19The reaction to Rogan is like the religious right’s reaction to Howard Stern. If you don’t like it don’t listen to his show.
Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music
#20I wonder what would have happened if instead of Neil Young it was Dua Lipa.