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Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by CameronNemo »

westurner wrote: post #2

From https://rancherdesktop.io/ : > Kubernetes and Container Management on the Desktop : > An open-source desktop application for Mac, Windows and Linux. > Rancher Desktop runs Kubernetes and container management on your desktop. You can choose the version of Kubernetes you want to run. You can build, push, pull, and run container images using either containerd or Moby (dockerd). The container images you build can be…

I think they ship k3s, which is sort if vanilla. It works great in my (limited) experience.

Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by CameronNemo »

btreecat wrote: post #6

This is something I find exciting! I was looking at our infrastructure and between all the various services, we basically have recreated k8s only more expensive and fragmented and tied explicitly to AWS. On top of that, our local test env is based on docker-compose so it often has issues matching exactly to the deployed env in the cloud once you add all the networking. I've wanted to start moving us to Kubernetes so…

I blogged about using Linux containers on macOS, including research into the operation and features of solutions like minikube, lima/nerdctl, Rancher Desktop, and Docker Desktop. You may find it helpful.

https://cameronnemo.gitlab.io/posts/mac-os-containers/

Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by encryptluks2 »

smarx007 wrote: post #5

Can it be used to run Docker Compose workloads? As I understand, the tool is launched because at the end of January the Docker Desktop grace period elapses and it becomes paid for large business.

There is Podman Compose which will what you want. I particularly like Podman, because you can use it for Minikube, independently, rootless, etc.

Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by cholmon »

It looks like Rancher Desktop uses Lima VM (https://github.com/lima-vm/lima) under the hood, I suppose in the same way that Docker Desktop uses Hypervisor.framework on macos? This is the first I've heard about the Lima project. I'll be interested to see how file system performance with this compares to Docker Desktop on mac.

Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by rodgerd »

btreecat wrote: post #6

This is something I find exciting! I was looking at our infrastructure and between all the various services, we basically have recreated k8s only more expensive and fragmented and tied explicitly to AWS. On top of that, our local test env is based on docker-compose so it often has issues matching exactly to the deployed env in the cloud once you add all the networking. I've wanted to start moving us to Kubernetes so…

> we basically have recreated k8s only more expensive and fragmented

Exactly my driver for getting k8s (in the form of OpenShift) in place years ago to support a microservices push: if you want to deploy a fleet of a few hundred independent runtimes independently of one another, you could waste a lot of time and effort building everything that's needed to support that out of bits of VMware and F5 irules and things, or you can use something designed to support the case from day one.

Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by signalblur »

thrwawy283 wrote: post #3

It feels like we're late to create the desktop experience where most things run in containers. My wish is to run something like Proxmox as a "stable base", and within it have a VM for my firewall (pfsense), my primary Linux OS (Fedora/Arch), a VM for services (Docker & k8s), and a VM for Windows gaming. I like the separation of concerns. I've wanted to do all of this on a laptop but I can't get a VM to exclusively ta…

Isn’t that essentially what fedora Silverblue is?

It’s an immutable desktop OS where everything is ran in flatpaks/podman pods for the most part and it’s actually a really great experience.

Can play stellaris on steam with it for example with no issue.

Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by thinkmassive »

thrwawy283 wrote: post #3

It feels like we're late to create the desktop experience where most things run in containers. My wish is to run something like Proxmox as a "stable base", and within it have a VM for my firewall (pfsense), my primary Linux OS (Fedora/Arch), a VM for services (Docker & k8s), and a VM for Windows gaming. I like the separation of concerns. I've wanted to do all of this on a laptop but I can't get a VM to exclusively ta…

Fedora Silverblue is a Linux desktop container distro https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/

Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by thrwawy283 »

lostmsu wrote: post #4
thrwawy283 wrote: post #3

It feels like we're late to create the desktop experience where most things run in containers. My wish is to run something like Proxmox as a "stable base", and within it have a VM for my firewall (pfsense), my primary Linux OS (Fedora/Arch), a VM for services (Docker & k8s), and a VM for Windows gaming. I like the separation of concerns. I've wanted to do all of this on a laptop but I can't get a VM to exclusively ta…

Have you tried Cubes OS?

Yes, but I don't consider that easier to maintain. The appeal of a dockerfile or k8s manifest means I can expect some degree of isolation, and easily distribute that experience to others. Getting something to run in Cube OS is more of the VM experience, than container experience. I do like both.

Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by thrwawy283 »

thinkmassive wrote: post #17
thrwawy283 wrote: post #3

It feels like we're late to create the desktop experience where most things run in containers. My wish is to run something like Proxmox as a "stable base", and within it have a VM for my firewall (pfsense), my primary Linux OS (Fedora/Arch), a VM for services (Docker & k8s), and a VM for Windows gaming. I like the separation of concerns. I've wanted to do all of this on a laptop but I can't get a VM to exclusively ta…

Fedora Silverblue is a Linux desktop container distro https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/

I have never heard of this (until now). Thank you! I've been loving NixOS so I hope it's easy to build the world like that. :-)

Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by thrwawy283 »

signalblur wrote: post #16
thrwawy283 wrote: post #3

It feels like we're late to create the desktop experience where most things run in containers. My wish is to run something like Proxmox as a "stable base", and within it have a VM for my firewall (pfsense), my primary Linux OS (Fedora/Arch), a VM for services (Docker & k8s), and a VM for Windows gaming. I like the separation of concerns. I've wanted to do all of this on a laptop but I can't get a VM to exclusively ta…

Isn’t that essentially what fedora Silverblue is? It’s an immutable desktop OS where everything is ran in flatpaks/podman pods for the most part and it’s actually a really great experience. Can play stellaris on steam with it for example with no issue.

I have never heard of this (until now). Thank you! I've been loving NixOS so I hope it's easy to build the world like that. :-)
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