Best form of civil disobedience for these authoritarian and I would argue unlawful government mandates.
Fake vaccine cards are everywhere. It’s a public health nightmare
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#12I highly disagree with this. In fact, I think the best thing for the world is more fake ids. So we can search for true vectors of disease, such as MRNA gene therapies that are not fully tested.
Passports are just a means to move to a social credit score. Which is horrifying in its implications.
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#13Good. People have a right to be free.
Well depends what you call free. If we can end pandemic, we don't have to wear masks, no more boosters. That would be ideal freedom right?
But not vaccinating, thinking one can outsmart public health officials, being intolerant is apparently not a freedom to me.
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#14What is preventing the US from putting a QR in those cards as many other countries?
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#15Is it really a public health nightmare? What data is there to show that vaccine passports are effective at reducing spread or hospitalizations?
Not just numbers, but numbers we can trust.
I've been really impressed with how much data my province (Alberta) has made available, but now, I'm wondering.
They recently had "technical difficulties", and the numbers changed from showing that double-vaxxed people were the most at-risk for omicron, to showing that unvaxxed people are. https://twitter.com/AB_CovidFacts/status/1486112498977685506
Also disturbing is that, if you get vaccinated and have issues within the first 14 days, they count you as being unvaccinated in all the reports: https://metatron.substack.com/p/alberta-just-inadvertently-c...
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#16Who could have guessed a piece of cardstock would be a poor means of verification. No one seems to have thought these through and few seem to be taking it seriously.
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#17Validating seems to be so lackluster that I'm not sure fake card producers are even an issue currently. Any time I've had to validate my vax status in order to get into some establishment, either a crappy photocopy or a digital photo of the card on my phone has been accepted without even blinking. Typically they don't even look at the info, they just see you wave something that looks vaguely right at them and they're satisfied.
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#18Good. People have a right to be free.
Well depends what you call free. If we can end pandemic, we don't have to wear masks, no more boosters. That would be ideal freedom right? But not vaccinating, thinking one can outsmart public health officials, being intolerant is apparently not a freedom to me.
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#19Is it really a public health nightmare? What data is there to show that vaccine passports are effective at reducing spread or hospitalizations?
Isn't that a common knowledge, assuming vaccination means less hospitalization. So, why do we even need data in such case? Vaccine passports somehow forces or incentivizes people to vaccinate more?
No. Requiring vaccine passports or vaccine cards incentivizes people to get vaccine passports and/or vaccine cards, which is exactly what we're seeing.
This is like counting lines of code or repo commits to see how productive a SWE is. If you want to incentivize X, you have to be very careful not to instead incentivize an imperfect proxy for X.
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#20I am amazed that anyone would spend hundreds of dollars to get replica of a handwritten paper card with zero security features of which there are millions of originals floating around.
I guess the people who don't really understand how vaccines work also overlap with with people who don't understand how paper cards with no security features work.