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Re: Google rewrites many page titles

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tldr: Google sometimes uses headings instead of titles. Match them to prevent title rewrite; stop using long, verbose titles

From a pure HTTP perspective, isn't the point of page titles to be how a page is referenced? It would be an error if a library reported the title of "A Tale of Two Cities" as "It Was The Best of Times".

> stop using long, verbose titles

This is good advice, but if Google wants to penalize bad titles it should dock their rank, not misreport them.

Re: Google rewrites many page titles

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> Takeaway: to dramatically decrease the chance of Google rewriting your title, matching the H1 to the title tag seems to be an effective strategy.

Of course it should be mentioned this wont last if it becomes popular. Historically every time an SEO trick gets popular, the rules are adjusted. Even having this article on the front page of HN might be enough to see Google react by rethinking how (or whether) tags in titles affect the title rewrites.

Re: Google rewrites many page titles

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tldr: Google sometimes uses headings instead of titles. Match them to prevent title rewrite; stop using long, verbose titles

On the website of the company I work for, the title is "tagline | company name" but in the search results it shows up as "company name: tagline". That style doesn't appear on the company website anywhere.

I imagine it's Google trying to normalize how things are shown but it's quite annoying. It could potentially break some company's branding.

Re: Google rewrites many page titles

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post #12

> Takeaway: to dramatically decrease the chance of Google rewriting your title, matching the H1 to the title tag seems to be an effective strategy. Of course it should be mentioned this wont last if it becomes popular. Historically every time an SEO trick gets popular, the rules are adjusted. Even having this article on the front page of HN might be enough to see Google react by rethinking how (or whether) tags in ti…

I wonder if Google is going to try out "AI"-generated titles that are directly summarized from the page content by machine, treating the page title and headings as inputs to the model.

Re: Google rewrites many page titles

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It's quite funny to me that people are running these kind of almost scientific experiments on a fully human-generated and in principle knowable system. The reason are understandable of course but it does seem like a waste of human energy.

Haven’t we been doing similar thing with for example stock market analysis when we analyze a company’s earnings/management etc?

Re: Google rewrites many page titles

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post #7

It's quite funny to me that people are running these kind of almost scientific experiments on a fully human-generated and in principle knowable system. The reason are understandable of course but it does seem like a waste of human energy.

Agree. Then you imagine that the entire SEO industry is basically based around the idea that a company has a algorithm only they know, and the industry is trying to reverse-engineer that algorithm. If they released a whitepaper describing exactly how it works, the entire industry would have to change their ways to consulting already public information instead of experiments like this.

Re: Google rewrites many page titles

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post #14

tldr: Google sometimes uses headings instead of titles. Match them to prevent title rewrite; stop using long, verbose titles

On the website of the company I work for, the title is "tagline | company name" but in the search results it shows up as "company name: tagline". That style doesn't appear on the company website anywhere. I imagine it's Google trying to normalize how things are shown but it's quite annoying. It could potentially break some company's branding.

Shrug. The almost-religious belief in the necessity for ultra-consistent branding within some companies is nearly comical so long as you're on the outside.

Re: Google rewrites many page titles

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tldr: Google sometimes uses headings instead of titles. Match them to prevent title rewrite; stop using long, verbose titles

As a search engine developer I totally get why. HTML in the wild is not well behaved in the slightest. People use title and heading tags in all manner of weird ways. I've seen -tags in the -tag used as headings. I've seen documents where every line was a -tag. You kinda need to make the most of what you're given.

HTML5 has been around for long enough that we should be able to punish sites that use completely bonkers markup at this point right? Since Google effectively has historical archives of the internet they could pretty trivially grandfather in legitimately old content (things they tracked before some date) and just start down-ranking sites that continue to misbehave with markdown but skate by with browsers running in compatibility mode. Something like abusing tags is legal, if obnoxious, HTML and so it shouldn't really fall under this... but it's been long enough that we can start punishing completely incorrect syntax right?
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