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Re: About Citation Files on GitHub

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Count me mystified as to why there needs to be another format for citations.

There are orgs doing super heavy lifting like crossref and orcid to make discovery as data better while google etc make things worse by encouraging discovery as content without offering standard outputs.

At least in this case, Github will output standards in the UI, but it would be much better to encourage storage in those formats too, instead of adding one.

Re: About Citation Files on GitHub

#14
I recently tried searching for the name of my main open source package on Google Scholar and was delighted to find it had been referenced by a few papers! I recommend doing that with your own projects, you never know what you might find.

Re: About Citation Files on GitHub

#15
post #13

Count me mystified as to why there needs to be another format for citations. There are orgs doing super heavy lifting like crossref and orcid to make discovery as data better while google etc make things worse by encouraging discovery as content without offering standard outputs. At least in this case, Github will output standards in the UI, but it would be much better to encourage storage in those formats too, inste…

Obligatory related xkcd: https://xkcd.com/927/

Re: About Citation Files on GitHub

#16
post #13

Count me mystified as to why there needs to be another format for citations. There are orgs doing super heavy lifting like crossref and orcid to make discovery as data better while google etc make things worse by encouraging discovery as content without offering standard outputs. At least in this case, Github will output standards in the UI, but it would be much better to encourage storage in those formats too, inste…

Obligatory related xkcd: https://xkcd.com/927/

These comments insisting on citing 927 are looking more and more bot like.

Re: About Citation Files on GitHub

#17
post #13

Count me mystified as to why there needs to be another format for citations. There are orgs doing super heavy lifting like crossref and orcid to make discovery as data better while google etc make things worse by encouraging discovery as content without offering standard outputs. At least in this case, Github will output standards in the UI, but it would be much better to encourage storage in those formats too, inste…

There are at least six competing formats for citations and cross-references in Markdown documents[0]. At some point, I'd like to update my text editor[1] to use a "standard" syntax, but CommonMark hasn't proposed one and the forums are quite quiet on the subject.

[0]: https://talk.commonmark.org/t/cross-references-and-citations...

[1]: https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite

Re: About Citation Files on GitHub

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post #10

There are valid reasons to cite software, but just 'using it' is not a good reason to request citation in a paper. The software package needs to be somehow relevant to paper's content. Why cite a tool for running experiments in parallel when the paper is about breast cancer research? Not every AI paper needs to cite PyTorch. Proper place where to surface such software dependencies is not in the paper but in the open…

Counterpoint: not everything on Github is software. The linked instructions use the phrasing "let them cite your work". You might use Github as a canonical source for, say, a data dump. Or really any kind of non-software information. This would be a useful way to allow folks to cite your work.

Re: About Citation Files on GitHub

#19
post #13

Count me mystified as to why there needs to be another format for citations. There are orgs doing super heavy lifting like crossref and orcid to make discovery as data better while google etc make things worse by encouraging discovery as content without offering standard outputs. At least in this case, Github will output standards in the UI, but it would be much better to encourage storage in those formats too, inste…

Obligatory related xkcd: https://xkcd.com/927/

I think everyone's seen this by now and it's no longer necessary and certainly no longer funny or appreciated to keep plugging it in. Maybe find a less popular XKCD to "obligatorily spam" everywhere.

Re: About Citation Files on GitHub

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post #10

There are valid reasons to cite software, but just 'using it' is not a good reason to request citation in a paper. The software package needs to be somehow relevant to paper's content. Why cite a tool for running experiments in parallel when the paper is about breast cancer research? Not every AI paper needs to cite PyTorch. Proper place where to surface such software dependencies is not in the paper but in the open…

Many open-source libraries are developed and maintained by academia,and academia often insists that citation reach is a metric for impact and job security. Using an open-source library or tool might be the critical difference between producing research results or not.

Software is applied computation research, and if using a published research method is enough to warrant citation, then using an open-source library certainly warrants inclusion.

If the world isn't going to come up with ways to monetarily fund open-source, giving open-source developers the tools to help them compete in academia is a great move.

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