Seems at least a little unethical that cloud companies do pay as you go up to infinity, instead of some model where you transfer money in and if you use it all up your service gets cut.
I got pwned by my cloud costs
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#12If Microsoft doesn't show the decency to forgive that bill, i'd be happy to chip in!
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#13As I spent a few hours to successfully get cf cache b2 files. I'm curious about the part of support Cloudflare requests due to caching issues.
It's time for cf to work a bit on its UX
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#14Ouch. If Troy Hunt of all people can make this mistake, it can happen to anybody. HIBP is an awesome service funded totally by donations, so it's too bad this happened. Of course Microsoft is happy to hide behind their confusing pricing model and let customers overpay for Azure without alerting them.
Every cloud makes this mistake easy! You have to manually activate billing alerts for everyone because they want you to spend more snd more each month. I am still waiting for a cloud without these dark patterns. But that will never happen because it‘s leaving a big amount of money on the table by not being hostile.
Get a VPS from linode for $5 a month and it costs $5 a month.
Re: I got pwned by my cloud costs
#15Ouch. If Troy Hunt of all people can make this mistake, it can happen to anybody. HIBP is an awesome service funded totally by donations, so it's too bad this happened. Of course Microsoft is happy to hide behind their confusing pricing model and let customers overpay for Azure without alerting them.
Every cloud makes this mistake easy! You have to manually activate billing alerts for everyone because they want you to spend more snd more each month. I am still waiting for a cloud without these dark patterns. But that will never happen because it‘s leaving a big amount of money on the table by not being hostile.
>Every cloud makes this mistake easy!
Funny enough...Oracle (OCI) makes it better, you can buy oracle"coins" 1to1 with $ and load your account just with what you think you need.
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#16It is worth mentioning that the alert itself costs money. So if you're evaluating the alert every 5 minutes on the past 24h of data it can burn a small but surprising amount of money.
From TFA it looks like that would be 10 cents per "time series". Or what I translate it to, is 10 cents every 5 minutes (*I think, but I havent used Azure in some time*). $1.20/hour, $28.80/day, almost $900/month. Not too hard to drop that by making the alert less frequent. (edit: I think I saw AU$ there, so maybe it is AU$900.)
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#17First thing one should always set on any cloud account is billing alerts. Set > 1 and set first to ~ 80% of what you think will be your normal cost then add extra alerts all the way up to 100%. That way you'll usually get an early warning with some time to act before it becomes really expensive.
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#18Interestingly, Troy says that egress is expensive on Azure at $0.014 AUD/gB (~$0.010 USD/gB), but that is the same price as additional egress for Linode and DO, and Linode egress has never struck me as expensive. In fact, I’m kind of shocked (as an AWS user) that Azure egress is the same price as Linode.
Actually, wow it seems AWS is also the same price as Linode and DO for egress. While Linodes and DO do come with decent free bandwidth, this is a surprise to me.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every cloud makes this mistake easy! You have to manually activate billing alerts for everyone because they want you to spend more snd more each month. I am still waiting for a cloud without these dark patterns. But that will never happen because it‘s leaving a big amount of money on the table by not being hostile.
Get a VPS from linode for $5 a month and it costs $5 a month.
Or hetzner, or Vultr.
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#20Have you contacted Azure? On one hand you owe the money “fair and square”, but on the other if I were them I’d waive an unexpected $10k bill to a good faith actor that was incurred without any proactive notification by Azure.
As opposed to all those other customers who are not good faith actors?
You’re trying to be snarky to GP, why exactly? Yes there are bad faith actors that might try to get some free cash out of cloud refunds. And other customers can also be good faith actors and included in the assertion.
The post applies to everyone and I’d second it. Ask nicely for a refund in these situations, the worst that can happen is they say no.
Where did they say that “only Troy Hunt shall receive a refund, for only Troy Hunt is a good faith actor, so say we all”?