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The implementation of the UK Covid-19 dashboard

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Re: The implementation of the UK Covid-19 dashboard

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> Government project

> awarded to Microsoft

Hey Europe, want to stop being several decades behind in IT compared to US/China?

One simple trick:

Ban FAANG from public procurement in Europe!

It‘s a no-brainer really.

Buy locally, ideally giving small companies and startups a chance.

You will have to do it anyway very soon if you want your privacy laws to be taken seriously.

There might be a couple of months of friction while buerocrats have to find new procurement partners, but that's it.

And then the European tech scene will rise.

Re: The implementation of the UK Covid-19 dashboard

#12

> Government project > awarded to Microsoft Hey Europe, want to stop being several decades behind in IT compared to US/China? One simple trick: Ban FAANG from public procurement in Europe! It‘s a no-brainer really. Buy locally, ideally giving small companies and startups a chance. You will have to do it anyway very soon if you want your privacy laws to be taken seriously. There might be a couple of months of friction…

The UK isn't part of the EU anymore.

Re: The implementation of the UK Covid-19 dashboard

#13

I like the UI design in figure 1. There’s no crap in the way of the data but i don’t feel overwhelmed either. My eyes can scan across sections and it feels natural, theres no firehose effect. I like the thought that’s gone into showing the % vaccinated in the top right. I like the dashed underlines telling me that some explainatory text is available. I think the page looks inoffensive but is clearly focussed on being…

I think GOV.UK in general does a very good job of making important information readily available. It’s however extra jarring switching between the clean/efficient style of the online messaging and the underlying public services/offices that are still held together by chewing gum and a fax machine, whenever you have some issue that can only be resolved by persuading a human to stamp some paper (Visas, public records,…

At least you got that. Try Spain, when the tax agency uses behavioral data and puts incentives for tax agents, but you can't get a f*ing appointment for pretty much any service as they use the most stupid appointment system ever, and 90% of the state services are subcontracted to the lowest bidder making everything a PITA to use.

All the fancy tech to get in your pockets. For everything else, go f*k yourself.

Re: The implementation of the UK Covid-19 dashboard

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post #10

> From the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, the United Kingdom (UK) government has made it a top priority to track key health metrics and to share those metrics with the public. According to Dominic Cummings (ex-adviser to the PM), this isn't true at all - one of their biggest failings early on was to not have the data and not see the priority in getting it.[1] [1] https://news.sky.com/story/dominic-cummings-heari…

It's worth noting for those who don't follow UK politics (I don't recommend doing so), that Dominic Cummings was fired as the top advisor, and like a jealous ex he is determined to bring down the government by any means possible. So he is an unreliable source to say the least. Although the government seems to have left enough rope to hang themselves without Cummings needing to invent anything.

Re: The implementation of the UK Covid-19 dashboard

#15
Given the original meetings were all about producing a dynamic simulation dashboard which would allow people and politicians to understand the impact of various measures on lives saved...

Typical this turned into a pro cloud puff piece that frankly shows a serious amount of over design for what should be a data filtering/processing step to any reasonable "data scientist". And if I'm having to say a data scientist could do it better you know you got it wrong...

Re: The implementation of the UK Covid-19 dashboard

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post #15

Given the original meetings were all about producing a dynamic simulation dashboard which would allow people and politicians to understand the impact of various measures on lives saved... Typical this turned into a pro cloud puff piece that frankly shows a serious amount of over design for what should be a data filtering/processing step to any reasonable "data scientist". And if I'm having to say a data scientist cou…

> people and monsters

monsters?

Re: The implementation of the UK Covid-19 dashboard

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post #10

> From the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, the United Kingdom (UK) government has made it a top priority to track key health metrics and to share those metrics with the public. According to Dominic Cummings (ex-adviser to the PM), this isn't true at all - one of their biggest failings early on was to not have the data and not see the priority in getting it.[1] [1] https://news.sky.com/story/dominic-cummings-heari…

The government was tracking key health metrics and sharing them at the point Dom was talking about using his iPhone. For instance on the same date, the government did it's first daily briefing and shared infection and death metrics with the public (see https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51901818).

Tracking key health metrics and sharing those metrics with the public doesn't mean that there is modelling about the extent to which infections would spread - although we also know that the imperial modelling was released a day later, so while he may have been using his iPhone to make predictions there were also academic teams modelling this that were collaborating with the government at the time (see https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/196234/covid-19-imperial-res...).

It's also not clear what a 'data system' is in this context - there was clearly an effort to very quickly put something in place to capture data (because it couldn't wait a few weeks/months), but a more robust analytics system will inevitably take more than a few weeks to put in place if not already in place pre-pandemic (a lot of this is about how NHS trusts are structured in the UK, which operate fairly independently). It's not clear to me how quickly is realistic to implement what Dom thought was suitable in terms of a 'data system', particularly as I'm not particularly clear on his requirements (he seems to want an element of forecasting built into this system for instance?), so without knowing what the requirements are can we be confident that what he wanted to build was possible to build, test and implement in his expected timeline?

So I don't think there is a clear contradiction here (and in fact, I think the evidence points to the fact that the statement in the article is probably correct).

Re: The implementation of the UK Covid-19 dashboard

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post #10

> From the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, the United Kingdom (UK) government has made it a top priority to track key health metrics and to share those metrics with the public. According to Dominic Cummings (ex-adviser to the PM), this isn't true at all - one of their biggest failings early on was to not have the data and not see the priority in getting it.[1] [1] https://news.sky.com/story/dominic-cummings-heari…

Yes but Cummings deliberately asked questions which are fundamentally unknowable and went with report9 which claimed to be all knowing...

> "and to share those metrics with the public" Given stats on how many patients were in ICU didn't officially exist so you couldnt request them with an FOI request I'll let you work out how true this is. They wanted to control the data to craft a narrative to justify the report9 claims we'd have plague bodies in the streets because this is the end of days...

Re: The implementation of the UK Covid-19 dashboard

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post #15

Given the original meetings were all about producing a dynamic simulation dashboard which would allow people and politicians to understand the impact of various measures on lives saved... Typical this turned into a pro cloud puff piece that frankly shows a serious amount of over design for what should be a data filtering/processing step to any reasonable "data scientist". And if I'm having to say a data scientist cou…

> people and monsters monsters?

Fixed to politicians. Freudian slip and a half there...

Re: The implementation of the UK Covid-19 dashboard

#20

> Government project > awarded to Microsoft Hey Europe, want to stop being several decades behind in IT compared to US/China? One simple trick: Ban FAANG from public procurement in Europe! It‘s a no-brainer really. Buy locally, ideally giving small companies and startups a chance. You will have to do it anyway very soon if you want your privacy laws to be taken seriously. There might be a couple of months of friction…

The UK isn't part of the EU anymore.

But frankly we're very similar in this regard, and given we might get dropped from H24 we're not in a good position tech or science wise heading into a recovery...

We'll no doubt award yet more govt projects to the tech oligarchs of the west and praise students for using their toys...

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