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Re: Bad Emacs Advice

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just like pizza with pineapple, people do occasionally give out downright bad advice. I really don't understand this pineapple on pizza meme. I think it's delicious!

This meme is so popular because the overwhelming majority of people thinks pineapple on pizza is a disgusting abomination. I empathize with you, it's tough being the contrarian sometimes. I say that as someone who likes the Star Wars prequels :P

Re: Bad Emacs Advice

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just like pizza with pineapple, people do occasionally give out downright bad advice. I really don't understand this pineapple on pizza meme. I think it's delicious!

It's because it was not a thing in Italy, so accepting it was seen as the sign of being out of touch with "real pizza" traditions. Sadly, a natural reaction of disgusted rejection by Italians has been adopted by snobs all over the world. Nowadays you'll find it even in Italy, because tourists demand it and they pay hard cash, so fuck it all anyway.

>It's because it was not a thing in Italy

I'm pretty sure even Tomatoes weren't. I hope this isn't the reason for the disdain.

Re: Bad Emacs Advice

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post #2

just like pizza with pineapple, people do occasionally give out downright bad advice. I really don't understand this pineapple on pizza meme. I think it's delicious!

Most people in Europe especially, and especially in Southern Europe (Eastern Europe as well, but that's less relevant to pizza), tend to dislike sweet-and-salty combinations, with some limited exceptions (such as carrots or peas).

Re: Bad Emacs Advice

#14
I agree that the tool and menu bars are helpful for beginners. I disable mine to reclaim the vertical space (precious in a 16:9 world), to focus my attention on using the command keys, and because I'm a relatively experienced Emacs user! If keeping them helps you get your way around Emacs, by all means go nuts!

Re: Bad Emacs Advice

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post #6
post #2

just like pizza with pineapple, people do occasionally give out downright bad advice. I really don't understand this pineapple on pizza meme. I think it's delicious!

It's because it was not a thing in Italy, so accepting it was seen as the sign of being out of touch with "real pizza" traditions. Sadly, a natural reaction of disgusted rejection by Italians has been adopted by snobs all over the world. Nowadays you'll find it even in Italy, because tourists demand it and they pay hard cash, so fuck it all anyway.

> it was seen as the sign of being out of touch with "real pizza" traditions.

...by people who don’t know where what they think of as “Italian pizza” actually comes from. Look up “pizza effect.”

Re: Bad Emacs Advice

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just like pizza with pineapple, people do occasionally give out downright bad advice. I really don't understand this pineapple on pizza meme. I think it's delicious!

But are you quite prepared for tuna on pizza ?

Re: Bad Emacs Advice

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so let me get this straight: - read the manual - follow the tutorial - customize it to your liking wow, what enlightening advice! this must be unique to emacs and not _any_other piece of software! once again, all you need to get FP'd on hackernews is to put the word "emacs" in your title. zoom! to the front page!

Acessing manual, documentation, values, functions, and source code on Emacs is so easy that it would be hard to summarize all the ways you can do it. It's an integral part of your workflow, and literally unlike anything else. Unlike other programs, that really can and should be an integral part of your daily routine.

One thing I dislike about the manual is that it rarely presents examples, but commands like describe-variable and describe-function often help elucidate usage. Not to mention external packages that makes all that even easier.

Re: Bad Emacs Advice

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Years ago I wrote the Emacs tutorial I wish had existed when I was learning Emacs: https://david.rothlis.net/emacs/tutorial.html

It follows a similar philosophy as the OP: Start by reading Emacs's built-in tutorial, and then my tutorial shows you how to leverage the built-in help system to figure out how to achieve what you want to do.

Re: Bad Emacs Advice

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just like pizza with pineapple, people do occasionally give out downright bad advice. I really don't understand this pineapple on pizza meme. I think it's delicious!

Hawaiian pizza (cheese, ham and pineapple) is normalized here in Canada. I'm not personally a fan, but I have always had a hard time finding it unusual.

Re: Bad Emacs Advice

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's because it was not a thing in Italy, so accepting it was seen as the sign of being out of touch with "real pizza" traditions. Sadly, a natural reaction of disgusted rejection by Italians has been adopted by snobs all over the world. Nowadays you'll find it even in Italy, because tourists demand it and they pay hard cash, so fuck it all anyway.

> it was seen as the sign of being out of touch with "real pizza" traditions. ...by people who don’t know where what they think of as “Italian pizza” actually comes from. Look up “pizza effect.”

I would take what a "Austrian-born Hindu monk and professor of Anthropology at Syracuse University" says on the history of a traditional staple of my own country's diet with a massive grain of salt.

Pizza existed before Italian migration to North America was even a thing. It gained tomatoes when they became more readily available and better known in the early XIX century, and that's about it. The explosion in Italian migration happened later, by then most of the traditional pizzas had long been codified.

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