This would be so much nicer if it was SFP+, 10GBASE-T transceivers are too expensive still IMO.
Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
11–20 of 259 posts
Re: Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
#12It's interesting to see just how slow faster ethernet standards have been. Feels like I've had gigabit ethernet at a pretty low cost for nearly 20 years now, but faster than that has been pretty esoteric outside of the datacentre. I guess there really isn't much demand for faster than gigabit speeds even now (outside of servers?)
Maybe once gigabit internet service becomes more widely available, but even for something like a consumer NAS you’re probably bottlenecked by something else no?
Re: Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
#13I have had a lot of trouble with the Marvell AQtion controllers under Linux. They are supposed to work and are plug and play on modern kernels, but I was never able to resolve a bug where the controller stopped working after a few hours. The only resolution I found was rebooting, which made the controller not very useful. The Intel 10GbE controllers are more expensive, but much better in my experience. For anyone loo…
Thanks for the pointer, those are difficult to find via search.
Re: Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
#14It's interesting to see just how slow faster ethernet standards have been. Feels like I've had gigabit ethernet at a pretty low cost for nearly 20 years now, but faster than that has been pretty esoteric outside of the datacentre. I guess there really isn't much demand for faster than gigabit speeds even now (outside of servers?)
Maybe once gigabit internet service becomes more widely available, but even for something like a consumer NAS you’re probably bottlenecked by something else no?
NAS with SSD can go way faster than the ~ 120 MB/s 1GbE can offer. For NAS with HDD, the benefit is not as big but still there.
Also, the main competition is WiFi which is significantly slower than 1GbE in most cases.
Re: Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, but embedded devices and laptops generally don’t have pci-e.
Lots of consumer motherboards don't have a lot of PCIe slots wider than x1 (which is not enough for 10GigE), but they often have multiple NVMe capable M.2 slots, that this card would work with. In my home server for instance, which is built on a consumer μATX board, the wider PCIe slots are filled with a GPU and HBA, which leaves no way to add 10GigE without spending a lot of money on a new motherboard and CPU - or f…
> Lots of consumer motherboards don't have a lot of PCIe slots wider than x1 (which is not enough for 10GigE)
Isn't it enough given PCIe 4.0?
Re: Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
#16It's interesting to see just how slow faster ethernet standards have been. Feels like I've had gigabit ethernet at a pretty low cost for nearly 20 years now, but faster than that has been pretty esoteric outside of the datacentre. I guess there really isn't much demand for faster than gigabit speeds even now (outside of servers?)
Maybe once gigabit internet service becomes more widely available, but even for something like a consumer NAS you’re probably bottlenecked by something else no?
I have gigabit fiber Internet and internally I use 2.5Gbit
Re: Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
#17It's interesting to see just how slow faster ethernet standards have been. Feels like I've had gigabit ethernet at a pretty low cost for nearly 20 years now, but faster than that has been pretty esoteric outside of the datacentre. I guess there really isn't much demand for faster than gigabit speeds even now (outside of servers?)
Getting stuck to 1 Gbps is somewhat crazy, as even the slowest laptop and PC M.2 SSDs can do 10-20 Gbps easy. Fastest ones 50 Gbps+.
But I guess most people don't transfer files in their local networks anymore and use their network purely for internet access.
Re: Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lots of consumer motherboards don't have a lot of PCIe slots wider than x1 (which is not enough for 10GigE), but they often have multiple NVMe capable M.2 slots, that this card would work with. In my home server for instance, which is built on a consumer μATX board, the wider PCIe slots are filled with a GPU and HBA, which leaves no way to add 10GigE without spending a lot of money on a new motherboard and CPU - or f…
> Lots of consumer motherboards don't have a lot of PCIe slots wider than x1 (which is not enough for 10GigE) Isn't it enough given PCIe 4.0?
If they even exist, PCIe 4 10GbE cards are currently unaffordable (for home use).
Re: Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
#19It's interesting to see just how slow faster ethernet standards have been. Feels like I've had gigabit ethernet at a pretty low cost for nearly 20 years now, but faster than that has been pretty esoteric outside of the datacentre. I guess there really isn't much demand for faster than gigabit speeds even now (outside of servers?)
From my perspective the problem is availability and cost of 2.5, 5, and 10gbe switches.
Re: Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
#20It's interesting to see just how slow faster ethernet standards have been. Feels like I've had gigabit ethernet at a pretty low cost for nearly 20 years now, but faster than that has been pretty esoteric outside of the datacentre. I guess there really isn't much demand for faster than gigabit speeds even now (outside of servers?)
It's kind of chicken and egg. It's not worth buying a 10G switch when all or nearly all of your devices are gigabit and it's not worth buying 10G cards for any device when you have a gigabit switch.
What you need for the transition is for premium brands to start pushing 10G ports as a feature, e.g. Apple needs to add it to Macbooks and the Mini and start using it to bludgeon competitors who don't have it. Then once their customers have several 10G devices around, they buy a 10G switch and start demanding that every new device have it. At which point the volume gets high enough for the price to come down.