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Re: Shenanigans on Microsoft Feedback Hub

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Post by thombles »

suction wrote: post #5

Feedback Hub indeed seems to be useless - because it is designed to act as a sink hole. Yet the topic the author of this article and apparently hundreds of others are describing as a show-stopping miss of Windows 11: The ability to see open documents ungrouped on the task bar. That's not a "bug" which needs to be addressed directly by developers. And really? That alone is a reason to go through a harrowing downgrade…

(author here) Each "button" on the taskbar shows as a label the name of the document. This is the key differentiator that makes W10- so convenient - they don't look the same because they have text showing exactly what you're getting!

Re: Shenanigans on Microsoft Feedback Hub

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Post by WolfRazu »

suction wrote: post #5

Feedback Hub indeed seems to be useless - because it is designed to act as a sink hole. Yet the topic the author of this article and apparently hundreds of others are describing as a show-stopping miss of Windows 11: The ability to see open documents ungrouped on the task bar. That's not a "bug" which needs to be addressed directly by developers. And really? That alone is a reason to go through a harrowing downgrade…

When individual windows are ungrouped their application name is displayed, so you can just look for the name of the document or window you're looking for. I miss this feature too.

Re: Shenanigans on Microsoft Feedback Hub

#13

Post by thombles »

forgotmypw17 wrote: post #9

Just want to say how much of a pleasure it is to use any ol' minimal gnu distro compared to this mess. Not as polished as Win95 or 2000, but at least everything is consensual.

(author here) IMO KDE is the most authentic expression of Windows XP-era UI productivity that exists today. Their dedication to user-configurable settings is an absolute blessing.

Re: Shenanigans on Microsoft Feedback Hub

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Post by userbinator »

I once even spotted a Microsoft employee who took the time to raise their concerns on the public tracker:

That is just incredibly exasperating to see. When even MS employees are being forced to "bend over and take it", you'd think there would be some sort of "find the people responsible for this shitshow in the Windows team inside MS, and keep emailing them to fix it" protest. That one employee he noticed seemed to have concluded his comment with a rather sarcastic thanks directed toward someone who might be one of the responsible?

On the other hand, what I can find in the news about internal protests at MS are all seemingly SJW-ish topics, and absolutely none about the quality of the products themselves. I think that alone says a lot about who's working there and what they actually care about doing --- which is clearly not improving their products. The people who do care about that are being heavily outnumbered, and perhaps a lot of them have already deemed MS to be unsalvageable and left.

I can't believe the incredible amount of reality distortion they must have in order to spew forth marketing BS like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28753528 with a straight face.

Re: Shenanigans on Microsoft Feedback Hub

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Post by userbinator »

tasogare wrote: post #2

"We are listening to your feedback" is corporate speech for "we don't give a shit about your opinion" especially when Microsoft is involved.

They are listening --- as in someone will probably read what you wrote --- but they never said they would do anything about it.

Re: Shenanigans on Microsoft Feedback Hub

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Post by pid-1 »

polotics wrote: post #4

Windows 11 is so obviously a no go, games and office was Microsoft's last redoubt for relevance on personal hardware. Here's a prediction: in ten years this company will be smaller and called "Azure"...

I distro hop with my home laptops and use Windows at $JOB

I've decided to install Windows 11 preview around June 2021 and have been using it ever since, so I could eventually help my coworkers, validate our workflows etc...

I am curious on why people in HN dislike Win 11 so much. For me the upgrade was basically about minor UI changes, which I got used to in 1-2 weeks. I am a sysadmin / cloud whatever and it broke none of my stuff, I use the same workflows I used in Win 10.

We still haven't migrated our users to Win 11 out of pragmatism , but honestly there is nothing I hate about it. Maybe my expectations for MS are too low already, IDK.

Re: Shenanigans on Microsoft Feedback Hub

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Post by Rastonbury »

polotics wrote: post #4

Windows 11 is so obviously a no go, games and office was Microsoft's last redoubt for relevance on personal hardware. Here's a prediction: in ten years this company will be smaller and called "Azure"...

Very bold prediction, I think you underestimate how vigorously a monopoly will fight to keep it. How can any company convince any even moderately sized corporate to switch away from Windows/Office? Teams is so big not because it's the best product, but because of the existing relationships Microsoft has with its large customers.

Re: Shenanigans on Microsoft Feedback Hub

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Post by userbinator »

azalemeth wrote: post #3

Companies do this sort of thing all the time. Leave a bad review on the Google play store. It won't be edited immediately but it might become impossible to find or vanish quickly under lots of good ones. Image management is a lot easier when you own the platform it needs to be managed on. Microsoft used to have a User Voice board. I wrote a complaint at length about Teams being a steaming hot pile of . Lots of other…

Deleting comments (i.e. censorship) is one thing; but misattribution and effectively "putting words into someone's mouth" by editing their content to say what they did not, goes well beyond what I think even those who are proponents of strong moderation and censorship would deem acceptable. I suspect proponents of copyright and other IP laws would also be against it.
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