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#11

Interesting, but the premise is nonsense. Obviously these phrases and words do translate. They are translated on the page, into English.

I think they meant it doesn't have an exact one word equivalent.

That has never been the definition of translation.

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#12
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or they are simply giving the closest possible translation. They list “te quiero” as meaning “I love you but not quite. Which is a mistranslation. It literally translates as “I love you”. But at the same time you have “te amo”, which also translates to “I love you” yet they are two different phrases with different meanings.

"te quiero" = "i adore you"

That’s not really my understanding of it, but I’m not perfectly bilingual either.

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#13

Interesting, but the premise is nonsense. Obviously these phrases and words do translate. They are translated on the page, into English.

But when people say something “doesn’t translate”, they usually mean (and are understood as meaning) one or both of two things — that it doesn’t translate succinctly, or it doesn’t translate exactly. Japanese honorifics, for example, probably fall under both.

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#14

TIL there's no English word for "to speak among Esperantists in a language besides Esperanto", although I'm not sure one is needed either.

What if you do:

s/Esperantists/English-speakers/ and "non-English"

AFAIK, the English language is very verbose. If there are so many words, many of which have very similar meaning to others, then many of those words are not needed? Should be removed, even, until everyone forgets them and doesn't miss them at all?

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#15

Interesting, but the premise is nonsense. Obviously these phrases and words do translate. They are translated on the page, into English.

I think they meant it doesn't have an exact one word equivalent.

If that’s the case they should remove all the expressions that are on the website. 5 of the 15 untranslatable Italian “words” are multi-words like “in boca al lupo” (totally translatable: “good luck”) and “rompere il cazzo” (literally “faire chier” in French).

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#16

TIL there's no English word for "to speak among Esperantists in a language besides Esperanto", although I'm not sure one is needed either.

What if you do: s/Esperantists/English-speakers/ and "non-English" AFAIK, the English language is very verbose. If there are so many words, many of which have very similar meaning to others, then many of those words are not needed? Should be removed, even, until everyone forgets them and doesn't miss them at all?

> the English language is very verbose. If there are so many words, many of which have very similar meaning to others, then many of those words are not needed?

"Very similar" is not the same as "identical". Having multiple words with similar, but not identical, meanings allows you to express more detailed nuances and shades of meaning.

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>Ish - a suffix that softens the exactness of an adjective.

Spanish -eico, -izo...

>Paragrafryttare. A person who follows written rules to such a degree that they're seen as rigid and inflexible.

Tiquismiquis.

>Cornuto. To have horns, meaning that you (or a particular person) has been cheated on by their spouse or significant other.

Same in Spanish, cornudo.

>A pop song released around spring that gets overplayed during the summer. Swedish By frobar Go to the reddit thread Disagree

Canción del verano.

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#19
>Concepts in _____ That are difficult to easily and directly translate to other languages.

Other languages, or English? Because I can definitely come up with some non-English translations to some of the words here. For example, "Haju" and "Tuoksu" in Finnish are "臭い" and "匂い" in Japanese. Swedish "mellandagarna" is also pretty much word-for-word "välipäivät" in Finnish.

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#20
I've spoken English for years, but mostly online with foreign people or when abroad myself.

But recently I started working a place here in Norway where all communication is in English. Speaking English but often in a Norwegian context, have made me sometimes grasp for these kind of words. Like "romjul" when trying to ask who is gonna be oncall this christmas. Or asking if people are going to "Syden" during their summer holidays.

Syden is not on the page, but is generally when you travel south (italy, spain, greece) to lie on a beach and drink cheap alcohol.

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