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The State of Web Scraping 2022

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Re: The State of Web Scraping 2022

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You dont even need to do that, go overt plain sight in yer face and call yourself a search engine!

Haha I love that people forget how google/bing are out there scraping everything and anyone who scrapes anything for any other reason is a "bad guy". You can get around some web scraping blockers by just setting your user agent as Googlebot too which I find funny...

That was a cheap way to read the FT.com!

Re: The State of Web Scraping 2022

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Like most here, I am very good at web scraping and automated form fills. I keep trying to figure out a profitable side project or business idea to make out of it and keep coming up with nothing that works. Any good ideas?

I know many people that follow limited/exclusive releases for things like Yeezy/Air Jordan sneakers as well as PS5's and graphics cards.

They pay $500/mo for access to a bot that will allow them to make these purchases.

Most of the community lives on discord.

Re: The State of Web Scraping 2022

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Like most here, I am very good at web scraping and automated form fills. I keep trying to figure out a profitable side project or business idea to make out of it and keep coming up with nothing that works. Any good ideas?

You can do it as a service, but that is highly competitive and basically trading time for money. Best ways are to productize it:

- build a on-demand data api for a specific type of data and charge a premium for it. Good example is https://serpapi.com/ who do Google data, charge ~10X markup on proxy costs

- proxy solutions make good money. To scrape at scale you need proxies, and lots of users pay $1-5k per month. Lots of proxy solutions doing +$100k per month.

- build a tool that uses web scraped data, analyses/filters it and displays it to users. Lots of the biggest web scrapers are doing this, ex. doing product monitoring products for e-commerce companies, etc. Lots of competition there, but you can do it in new markets, like NFTs, etc.

- hedge funds will pay huge money for web data, if you have 5 years of continuous data so they can backtest it.

Re: The State of Web Scraping 2022

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haha I love that people forget how google/bing are out there scraping everything and anyone who scrapes anything for any other reason is a "bad guy". You can get around some web scraping blockers by just setting your user agent as Googlebot too which I find funny...

That was a cheap way to read the FT.com!

Haha, nice hack!

Re: The State of Web Scraping 2022

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I fail to understand why Web Scraping isn't almost universally viewed as unethical and a terrible and nasty business practice.

In almost all cases I view Web scraping as people who are trying to build businesses on top of other people's innovation and data. I know this isn't a popular opinion, so change my mind, but at the same time, I'm one of those business owners that fights with Web scraping constantly and my opinion of it is that those that are doing it to my platforms are doing so solely to steal data and build businesses on top of other's hard work.

Re: The State of Web Scraping 2022

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As a lawyer whose primary focus is in web scraping, this article is in many ways misleading and inaccurate. While it is true that the Van Buren case is generally positive for web scraping, the overall legal landscape is still murky. The main battleground for web scraping legal issues is shifting from the CFAA to breach of contract and various state-law issues, including misappropriation, unjust enrichment, and trespass to chattels.

In my opinion, 2021 was a bad year for the law as it relates to web scraping. The Supreme Court remanded hiQ Labs, and many high-profile lower-court cases ended badly for web scrapers. It's a darker shade of gray than it was in 2020. It can be navigated, but it's tricky.

Re: The State of Web Scraping 2022

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I'm scraping about 30 sites for work at the moment, but have a few that are using Cloudflare which has been a b*tch to deal with. Tried numerous libraries and different proxy providers, but reliability is patchy. Previous fixes like https://github.com/Anorov/cloudflare-scrape don't seem to work anymore after Cloudflare updates, so I've switched to using a pretty optimised headless browser with good proxies instead.

Is the “pretty optimized headless browser” an off the shelf thing, or something custom? Are you using playwright/puppeteer to drive it?

Re: The State of Web Scraping 2022

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I fail to understand why Web Scraping isn't almost universally viewed as unethical and a terrible and nasty business practice. In almost all cases I view Web scraping as people who are trying to build businesses on top of other people's innovation and data. I know this isn't a popular opinion, so change my mind, but at the same time, I'm one of those business owners that fights with Web scraping constantly and my opi…

There are pro-social and anti-social uses of web scraping. If you have ever used Kayak or any other price discovery or price comparison website, you've relied on web scraping to provide you a service.

Re: The State of Web Scraping 2022

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With the right combination of proxies, user agents and browsers, you can scrape every website. Even those that seem unscrapable. : This outcome was great news for web scrapers, as it means that so long as a websites has made their data public you are not in violation of the CFAA when you scrape the data even if it is prohibited in some other way (T&Cs, robots.txt, etc). Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.…

100% agree, when scraping it should always be done respectfully. - If they provide a API, then use it. - Don't slam a website, ideally spread it out over hours of the day when there target audience is least active (night time). - If you can get cached data from somewhere that works, then use that. Most developers are respectful and only scrape what they really need, not only from an ethical point of view but also a c…

Don’t get my home address, name, family members names, salary, cell phone number, aggregate and sell them and claim “it’s all publically available anyway”

Re: The State of Web Scraping 2022

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Like most here, I am very good at web scraping and automated form fills. I keep trying to figure out a profitable side project or business idea to make out of it and keep coming up with nothing that works. Any good ideas?

I know many people that follow limited/exclusive releases for things like Yeezy/Air Jordan sneakers as well as PS5's and graphics cards. They pay $500/mo for access to a bot that will allow them to make these purchases. Most of the community lives on discord.

I understand people using bots to snipe PS5s and GPUs, these have real economic value and actual usage.

But what other than artificial scarcity drives people to spend hundreds of dollars on bots to snipe sneakers?!

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