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Serotonin selectively influences moral judgment and behavior

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Re: Serotonin selectively influences moral judgment and behavior

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Post by mattgreenrocks »

qwertyuiop_ wrote: post #6
dave_sullivan wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if you ever tried a DSRI but it could be your serotonin levels are fine but your dopamine levels are out of whack. SSRIs are just one class of drug. Speaking from a history of anxiety and depression, the wrong drugs were not helpful, but the right drugs opened up a whole new version of self. In my case, that was buproprion.

Do these work for panic attacks ? I think anxiety and depression are related. I was prescribed SSRI for anxiety.

> I think anxiety and depression are related. I was prescribed SSRI for anxiety.

They often accompany one another. I've had panic attacks in the past, and was diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder. I can't claim that bupropion fixes panic attacks proper, and I'm not a doctor, but it does help me with my depression. (I haven't had a panic attack in a long time.)

It's not a silver bullet; you can still find yourself in mentally stuck states, the difference is the physical side of things seems to be 'gated' at the low end so that your spiraling down isn't as deep as it is before. There's still a lot of work to do to recognize + slow that descent, but it is a tool to help with that.

Re: Serotonin selectively influences moral judgment and behavior

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Post by PragmaticPulp »

o10449366 wrote: post #3

(Just my personal, anecdotal experience - I have strong family history of depression and anxiety on both sides of my family and it's something that's afflicted me since I was a teenager.) I will be extremely hesitant to take antidepressants and anti-anxiety medications ever again after my last experience with them. For me, the medications helped by tempering all of my feelings - I no longer felt sad or anxious, inste…

> There is value to medications that inhibit or regulate serotonin, and every individual's experience will be slightly different based on their genetics and the circumstances of their life.

Not just slightly different. It can be extremely variable from person to person.

It’s well-known in medical research and clinical practice that medications likes SSRIs range from helpful to neutral to net negatives depending on the patients and situation. Sadly, too many people fixate on the potential negative side effects and avoid trialing treatments altogether.

For anyone suffering: It’s true that medications might not work out for you, but if they do address your condition and you’re one of the many people whose lives benefit greatly, then it would be tragic to avoid medications based on fear of potential negative outcomes.

Re: Serotonin selectively influences moral judgment and behavior

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Post by Findecanor »

o10449366 wrote: post #3

(Just my personal, anecdotal experience - I have strong family history of depression and anxiety on both sides of my family and it's something that's afflicted me since I was a teenager.) I will be extremely hesitant to take antidepressants and anti-anxiety medications ever again after my last experience with them. For me, the medications helped by tempering all of my feelings - I no longer felt sad or anxious, inste…

I've used SSRIs a long time ago with therapy, and without a few years ago.

In my opinion, SSRIs should only be used as a tool to help make the patient more receptive to therapy.

It should never ever be used a substitute for therapy. I too have noticed that without someone to help keeping your behaviour in check, some undesirable (but not necessarily dark) personality traits could take over. Not to mention that someone needs to be there to check on you during the first weeks of use when the drug actually causes a deeper depression before it starts mellowing your feelings.

BTW. My second SSRI use also left me with permanently dry eyes and nose: me needing eye drops and to avoid dusty, dry environments for the rest of my life.

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Post by plutonorm »

dave_sullivan wrote: post #4
o10449366 wrote: post #3

(Just my personal, anecdotal experience - I have strong family history of depression and anxiety on both sides of my family and it's something that's afflicted me since I was a teenager.) I will be extremely hesitant to take antidepressants and anti-anxiety medications ever again after my last experience with them. For me, the medications helped by tempering all of my feelings - I no longer felt sad or anxious, inste…

Not sure if you ever tried a DSRI but it could be your serotonin levels are fine but your dopamine levels are out of whack. SSRIs are just one class of drug. Speaking from a history of anxiety and depression, the wrong drugs were not helpful, but the right drugs opened up a whole new version of self. In my case, that was buproprion.

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Post by sjtindell »

Findecanor wrote: post #14
o10449366 wrote: post #3

(Just my personal, anecdotal experience - I have strong family history of depression and anxiety on both sides of my family and it's something that's afflicted me since I was a teenager.) I will be extremely hesitant to take antidepressants and anti-anxiety medications ever again after my last experience with them. For me, the medications helped by tempering all of my feelings - I no longer felt sad or anxious, inste…

I've used SSRIs a long time ago with therapy, and without a few years ago. In my opinion, SSRIs should only be used as a tool to help make the patient more receptive to therapy. It should never ever be used a substitute for therapy. I too have noticed that without someone to help keeping your behaviour in check, some undesirable (but not necessarily dark) personality traits could take over. Not to mention that someon…

I loosely agree. I feel SSRIs should be used in cases where someone feels so down they cannot function. Once they are functional enough for therapy and other support, they may want to consider carefully stopping.
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