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30 Austin tech CEOs headed to California in search of workers

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Re: 30 Austin tech CEOs headed to California in search of workers

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How do they plan on convincing the average liberal democrat Californian to move to a conservative stronghold like Texas?

Cost of living. Texas is too big to be homogenous. Austin's pretty "blue". It's also dreary and worn looking.

Austin's certainly not as lush and beautiful as Northern California, but it's definitely not "dreary and worn looking". Yes, it gets very hot in the summer, but the rest of the year the weather is fantastic.

Re: 30 Austin tech CEOs headed to California in search of workers

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I don't think this makes sense... I'm from MN and made a recent trip to the Bay area where all the local startups were clamoring over me. Meanwhile back in the midwest, I have to actively market myself to attract any attention. If you're really looking for untapped talent, go where nobody else is looking.

Exactly! Milwaukee and Madison have huge pools of programmers that are largely ignored.

I'd try to recruit them in late November or early December...

Re: 30 Austin tech CEOs headed to California in search of workers

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How do they plan on convincing the average liberal democrat Californian to move to a conservative stronghold like Texas?

Austin is not like the rest of Texas. It's common to hear others here comment the same: "Austin is not Texas". "Keep Austin Weird" is also a common t-shirt and bumper sticker slogan.

Re: 30 Austin tech CEOs headed to California in search of workers

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cost of living. Texas is too big to be homogenous. Austin's pretty "blue". It's also dreary and worn looking.

Austin's certainly not as lush and beautiful as Northern California, but it's definitely not "dreary and worn looking". Yes, it gets very hot in the summer, but the rest of the year the weather is fantastic.

It's kinda dreary and worn looking. :)

The Hill Country is nice tho.

Re: 30 Austin tech CEOs headed to California in search of workers

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First, Austin is NOTHING like Texas. It is a beacon of progressive hope in an otherwise bass-ackwards state. I moved to Austin from New York City by way of Portland, Oregon so believe me, when I say that there is no way I would live in TEXAS; Austin is anything but that.

Also, other reasons Austin may be attractive to potential candidates:

1.) No state income tax. This is huge. If you make $140k a year in SF, you take home significantly less than you do in Texas. Also, there is no "city tax" like SF has.

2.) Cost of living is HALF, that's right, HALF of SF. Beautiful homes or urban condos are available and priced well below what you would spend buying OR renting in SF.

1 + 2 = lots of $$ in your pocket.

Not to mention the fact that Austin is arguably the hippest city in the country from a growth perspective. With events like ACL and SXSW (plus the thousands of live music shows throughout the rest of the year), the creative arts scene is flourishing.

Finally, the weather. It was 86 degrees, no humidity on December 19th last year. And yes, it is HOT in the summer, but with all that extra cash, you can go live in Europe for a few months to beat the heat.

Re: 30 Austin tech CEOs headed to California in search of workers

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post #8

How do they plan on convincing the average liberal democrat Californian to move to a conservative stronghold like Texas?

I moved from reasonably liberal parts of Illinois/Wisconsin to Dallas/Fort Worth about three years ago... I wouldn't recommend this. When I decided to move from DFW to start a company I looked at Portland, Boston, San Francisco, and Austin. Austin made sense, financially. Texas has no state income tax (unfortunately the social services reflect this), jobs, and the cost of living is a fraction of what it is in other c…

As someone who went SF->Austin (and is originally from DFW) I'm curious why in the hell you'd pick DFW after you looked at Portland and Austin?

Re: 30 Austin tech CEOs headed to California in search of workers

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How do they plan on convincing the average liberal democrat Californian to move to a conservative stronghold like Texas?

money and affordable housing - the usual - oh and no travel for SXSW.

Most of the people I respect in Austin leave the city during SXSW. It's really the worst time to be here.

But if you live in a good location you can rent your place for $$$. :)

Re: 30 Austin tech CEOs headed to California in search of workers

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I've founded a couple of startups in Austin. The thing to know about Austin is that, at least right now, there are only about 6 consumer Internet startups of note who can afford real talent. Unless you move here for a specific position, or are a developer, finding a decent job will be tricky. If you like enterprise software, though, you'll be happier than a pig in mud.

Re: 30 Austin tech CEOs headed to California in search of workers

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First, Austin is NOTHING like Texas. It is a beacon of progressive hope in an otherwise bass-ackwards state. I moved to Austin from New York City by way of Portland, Oregon so believe me, when I say that there is no way I would live in TEXAS; Austin is anything but that. Also, other reasons Austin may be attractive to potential candidates: 1.) No state income tax. This is huge. If you make $140k a year in SF, you tak…

Do you get paid the same as in NYC?

I get recruited by companies in the midwest who tout that the cost of living is half of NYC. But, they also pay half as much as NYC, no relo package available. Whenever I do the math I still come out ahead in NYC.

The other downside I have found is that there are usually only one or two interesting companies and the rest is enterprise software.

Re: 30 Austin tech CEOs headed to California in search of workers

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cost of living. Texas is too big to be homogenous. Austin's pretty "blue". It's also dreary and worn looking.

Austin's certainly not as lush and beautiful as Northern California, but it's definitely not "dreary and worn looking". Yes, it gets very hot in the summer, but the rest of the year the weather is fantastic.

> but it's definitely not "dreary and worn looking"

Not so true this summer...

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bi...

(I live in Austin.)

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