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New York Is Using Race to Determine Access to Covid Treatments

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Re: New York Is Using Race to Determine Access to Covid Treatments

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Post by frazbin »

Yeah the right in the US has always preferred to pretend like racism is an abstract idea rather than an embodied institution, and that the civil rights acts of 1866 and 1964 didn't happen-- or if they did, that disparate impact isn't a doctrine and that reverse racism is a thing.

The facts contradicting this position are self evident to everybody living in the United States, but feigning ignorance is a very popular political position at the highest and lowest levels. Just keep quiet, take your payout, and be glad you're not on the bottom rung. applies even to "poor whites" (and always has, even/especially antebellum).

So naturally whenever things shake out such that 'poor whites' experience even the tiniest disadvantage, the banners are marshalled and the trumpet is blown. Nothing new under the sun.

How about this: maybe we /should/ treat unvaxed minorities before unvaxed whites-- the latter group has infinitely more historical reason to trust these institutions. Or did I miss the bit where we shot Appalachians full of syphilis?

Re: New York Is Using Race to Determine Access to Covid Treatments

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Post by 908B64B197 »

Barrin92 wrote: post #7

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> these policies rely on statistical risk factors

Should we then start separating whites from non-whites since the latter are more at risk of being desease carriers? Why not separate water fountains! And what about basing our policing on crime stats? Should we stop and frisk certain groups known to be statistically more inclined to commit criminal acts?

> You don't go through a list of people and rank them individually.

That's litterally what they are paid to do. It's called triage.

Re: New York Is Using Race to Determine Access to Covid Treatments

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Post by _-david-_ »

frazbin wrote: post #11

Yeah the right in the US has always preferred to pretend like racism is an abstract idea rather than an embodied institution, and that the civil rights acts of 1866 and 1964 didn't happen-- or if they did, that disparate impact isn't a doctrine and that reverse racism is a thing. The facts contradicting this position are self evident to everybody living in the United States, but feigning ignorance is a very popular p…

>Yeah the right in the US has always preferred to pretend like racism is an abstract idea

Seeing how this is NY where the left had control and has had control for quite sometime, maybe they should try to actually fix it.

>that reverse racism is a thing.

Nobody believes reverse racism is a thing. There is only racism.

>How about this: maybe we /should/ treat unvaxed minorities before unvaxed whites

Seems like that would be continuing the institutional racism you are criticizing.

Re: New York Is Using Race to Determine Access to Covid Treatments

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Post by ipaddr »

frazbin wrote: post #11

Yeah the right in the US has always preferred to pretend like racism is an abstract idea rather than an embodied institution, and that the civil rights acts of 1866 and 1964 didn't happen-- or if they did, that disparate impact isn't a doctrine and that reverse racism is a thing. The facts contradicting this position are self evident to everybody living in the United States, but feigning ignorance is a very popular p…

You have a tiktok view of history.

The Democrat south tried to block the civil rights act.

How about we vax by age groups not race.

Re: New York Is Using Race to Determine Access to Covid Treatments

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Post by Proven »

dragonwriter wrote: post #9

> But with the Omicron variant now the dominant COVID strain in New York, both the city and state are facing severe shortages in the availability of effective antiviral monoclonal treatments With the Omicron variant now the dominant strain, the evidence is that there are no effective antiviral monoclonal treatments ; there are two that seem to be exceptions, but neither one is available or even in trials in the US. h…

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Re: New York Is Using Race to Determine Access to Covid Treatments

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Post by polski-g »

Barrin92 wrote: post #7

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Using race as a factor requires strict scrutiny, which would mean race would have to be the best factor in determining treatment. But it's not. There are more specific factors like vaccination status and age.

This is in violation of the NY state constitution and the federal one.

Re: New York Is Using Race to Determine Access to Covid Treatments

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Post by yucky »

diablozzq wrote: post #5

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investi... They are using race to preferentially treat higher risk groups of people. Sounds like the way you should treat people - higher risk first. Very click bait title.

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Re: New York Is Using Race to Determine Access to Covid Treatments

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Post by DrScump »

frazbin wrote: post #11

Yeah the right in the US has always preferred to pretend like racism is an abstract idea rather than an embodied institution, and that the civil rights acts of 1866 and 1964 didn't happen-- or if they did, that disparate impact isn't a doctrine and that reverse racism is a thing. The facts contradicting this position are self evident to everybody living in the United States, but feigning ignorance is a very popular p…

> the civil rights acts of 1866 and 1964

For the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (HR 7152), there were almost three times as many Democrat votes against (96) as Republican votes against (34) and 3.5 times as many Democrat (21) as Republican (6) Senators voted against it.

Re: New York Is Using Race to Determine Access to Covid Treatments

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Post by pixel_fcker »

diablozzq wrote: post #5

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investi... They are using race to preferentially treat higher risk groups of people. Sounds like the way you should treat people - higher risk first. Very click bait title.

Men are more likely to die of COVID and more likely to be intubated. Should we start preferentially treating men over women? Why did they not include this advice as well?
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