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Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants

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Re: Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants

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Post by outside1234 »

alexpetralia wrote: post #4

My extremely uninformed understanding is that there is an energy crisis in Europe, and that this will exacerbate the situation.

We should call this the "enable Putin" and "destroy the climate" plan.

Honestly, I think we should declare a 50% tax on the gas going through the new Putin Nordstream 2 pipeline and direct the proceeds to NATO. Prices in externalities of gas usage and gets the EU closer to their NATO commitment.

Re: Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants

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Post by nradov »

SimonSword91 wrote: post #7

I live in Germany and I wonder, what the consequences will be of shutting down both coal and nuclear in very short time. My guess is, we will pay for nuclear energy from France and coal energy from Poland when wind slows down. The new government tries to accelerate the construction of renewable energy but I think their plans will fail because of worker shortage and supply chain problems.

Buying nuclear energy from France gets tough when they have their plants shut down for maintenance.

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3780688-france-shuts-down-nucl...

Re: Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants

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Post by cinntaile »

criley2 wrote: post #5

Sad to see Germany continue to shut down Nuclear while having to greatly expand coal usage because their wind farms significantly under produce due to unexpected weather patterns. (As much as +40% coal generation in the past two years, and -20% wind) https://www.ans.org/news/article-3274/germany-coal-tops-wind... https://energypost.eu/germany-2021-coal-generation-is-rising... And they're replacing it with... gas! Gre…

They're not replacing nuclear with gas. Nuclear has a steady output, gas will be variable output. It will run when deemed necessary.

Re: Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants

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Post by outside1234 »

the-dude wrote: post #14
mygoodaccount wrote: post #10

Why was Nord Stream 2's approval delayed by the German government?

To appease the US.

Who, to be clear, pays for almost all of the defense in NATO. So yes, to appease the US.

Also, it's terrible policy to depend on Putin, which seems obvious to everyone but Germany

Re: Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants

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Post by zetazzed »

SimonSword91 wrote: post #7

I live in Germany and I wonder, what the consequences will be of shutting down both coal and nuclear in very short time. My guess is, we will pay for nuclear energy from France and coal energy from Poland when wind slows down. The new government tries to accelerate the construction of renewable energy but I think their plans will fail because of worker shortage and supply chain problems.

France will build more nuclear, and in the long run solidify its position as a huge exporter of electricity at high rates when wind is low. Weird arbitrage opportunity for them as the neighbors go all in on wind.

Re: Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants

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Post by the-dude »

outside1234 wrote: post #17
the-dude wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To appease the US.

Who, to be clear, pays for almost all of the defense in NATO. So yes, to appease the US. Also, it's terrible policy to depend on Putin, which seems obvious to everyone but Germany

How come trade is seen as a peace maker for inside the EU, but not seen as a peace maker when done with Russia?

AFAIK Russia has been a trustworthy gas supplier and it would be economical suicide if they proved not to be trustworthy.

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