I think we should stop using China for cheap Labour in general given how hostile their government are becoming. Where possible I try to buy Taiwanese, Korean and Japanese electronics.
Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement
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Re: Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement
#12Should we demand that companies avoid California suppliers as well because of the extensive use of prison labor: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-10-11/californ... https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/policing/2020/11/11/c... https://www.freedomunited.org/news/forced-prison-labor-in-ca...
Yes. USA prison system is really awful, even more for a first world country, richiest country in the world.
Re: Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement
#13Should we demand that companies avoid California suppliers as well because of the extensive use of prison labor: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-10-11/californ... https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/policing/2020/11/11/c... https://www.freedomunited.org/news/forced-prison-labor-in-ca...
Definitely
Re: Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement
#14Should we demand that companies avoid California suppliers as well because of the extensive use of prison labor: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-10-11/californ... https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/policing/2020/11/11/c... https://www.freedomunited.org/news/forced-prison-labor-in-ca...
It wouldn't hurt.
Re: Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement
#15Should we demand that companies avoid California suppliers as well because of the extensive use of prison labor: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-10-11/californ... https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/policing/2020/11/11/c... https://www.freedomunited.org/news/forced-prison-labor-in-ca...
Definitely! Human rights are the same for all humans.
But not for criminals in prison (think about it).
Re: Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement
#16Should we demand that companies avoid California suppliers as well because of the extensive use of prison labor: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-10-11/californ... https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/policing/2020/11/11/c... https://www.freedomunited.org/news/forced-prison-labor-in-ca...
Is it slave labour, I mean are they being forced to do it and not being paid for it, then sure boycott it.
If NOT, and if it is an avenue for prisoners to earn money, benefits, then don't boycott it
Re: Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement
#17China has got a massive consumer market, an unmatched manufacturing ecosystem with zero labor disputes among other things, minerals, arguably the most stable (in terms of violence, unrest, strikes, etc.) regions in the world, and more.
They have got anyone by their balls who remotely wants to sell anything in China.
John Cena (famous wrestler, entertainer) recently apologized to Chinese people after calling Taiwan a country [0].
The companies and people who never go beyond their own selfish self-interests, will keep kowtowing to China (and KSA as well).
I don't judge this. I possibly would do the same. But I am not a hypocrite.
Apple used Chinese slave labor [1], Cook agreed to work with Chinese propaganda arm [2], but fired a techie for writing a satire [3].
All actors and actresses (who says nothing against China, where two or three decades ago, the whole of Hollywood was very pro-Tibet) preach freedom, self-empowerment or whatever woke thing is hot in that year, and yet choose regularly to censor and/or change content based on China's demand [4].
Intel is doing nothing new, and we will see this trend continue at least for a while now.
[0]: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/actor-john-cena-apologize....
[1]: https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/10/22428899/apple-suppliers-...
[2]: https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/apples-tim-...
[3]: https://taibbi.substack.com/p/on-the-hypocrites-at-apple-who...
[4]: https://www.cnet.com/features/marvel-is-censoring-films-for-...
Re: Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement
#18It's interesting to see that people on both sides are angry -- for different reasons. People on western Internet are angry at Intel for having issued an apology. People on Chinese Internet are angry because they view it as a non-apology, i.e. Intel still goes ahead with the ban. I see people -- including Chinese diaspora -- calling for banning Intel.
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Re: Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement
#20To me this sounds like a normal corporate non-apology. If I read the article correctly, Intel's policy to not allow suppliers to source from Xinjiang still stands, forced by Western regulation. They are just apologizing that the policy caused offence. I would prefer if Intel would outright condemn Chinese behavior in Xinjiang, but this particular event doesn't outrage me much.