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Re: South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as fast as it grew

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Post by mdoms » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 8:13 PM UTC

phnofive wrote: post #2

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Re: South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as fast as it grew

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Post by wefarrell » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 8:13 PM UTC

TaylorSwift wrote: post #3

Does anyone have insights/thoughts as to the implications of this variant growing as fast as it subsides? Does that mean a new variant will emerge which will be more/less infectious or more/less deadly?

I don't know if it's possible to assess the infectiousness and deadliness in isolation from the collective social immunity.

Each wave is less deadly because: a) we're getting better at treating it b) the most vulnerable populations have been killed off in previous waves. c) through vaccination and prior infections our individual immune systems are primed to deal with it.

Re: South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as fast as it grew

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Post by nostromo » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 8:13 PM UTC

The panic surrounding Omicron is absurd.

Take a look at these two charts. Omicron cases spiked in SA. Deaths didn't budge. At all.

https://i.imgur.com/TgRmz4F.png [1]

Omicron is a good thing, if your baseline is Delta. But I'm still waiting for the US media stop hyperventilating about it.

1. https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-m...

Re: South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as fast as it grew

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Post by voxadam » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 8:14 PM UTC

Am I the only one who reads these less than scientific articles as much more than wishful thinking?

I mean, I hope this pandemic comes to a close as much as anyone but so many of the recent news articles about the omicron variant being our collective way out of this pandemic seem a bit premature. I understand the theory that viruses become more contagious and less deadly over time but is there an real, peer reviewed science that backs up the idea that omicron is going to be our "savior"?

Re: South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as fast as it grew

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Post by yosito » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 8:14 PM UTC

gentleman11 wrote: post #6

There was a brief spike in daily new cases that was extremely high, then it lowered. It will take more than a day or two to know if it is truly subsiding as fast as it’s growing, and what the meaning of that spike was, so this seems premature. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-afri...

I read this news a week ago, so I think it's already been more than a day or two.

Re: South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as fast as it grew

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Post by executive » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 8:14 PM UTC

mdoms wrote: post #11

phnofive wrote: post #2

https://archive.md/WJXml

Ok I know it's off topic but I have got to ask, what is up with archive.md links? I have never in my life successfully loaded an archive.md URL. I either get straight up DNS errors or very occasionally I see a spinner that never finishes loading. Yet they must work for others because they're constantly being posted here.

Cloudflare DNS blocks

Re: South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as fast as it grew

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Post by destitude » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 8:14 PM UTC

gentleman11 wrote: post #6

There was a brief spike in daily new cases that was extremely high, then it lowered. It will take more than a day or two to know if it is truly subsiding as fast as it’s growing, and what the meaning of that spike was, so this seems premature. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-afri...

"case counts" are also a really bad way for measuring. Media likes to use it because they love sensationalizing things but if we already know this is a "mild" variant with little to no increase in hospitalizations then using "case counts" is really poor unit of measurement.

Re: South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as fast as it grew

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Post by benjiweber » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 8:15 PM UTC

mdoms wrote: post #11

phnofive wrote: post #2

https://archive.md/WJXml

Ok I know it's off topic but I have got to ask, what is up with archive.md links? I have never in my life successfully loaded an archive.md URL. I either get straight up DNS errors or very occasionally I see a spinner that never finishes loading. Yet they must work for others because they're constantly being posted here.

Maybe you're using cloudflare dns? https://community.cloudflare.com/t/archive-is-error-1001/182...

Re: South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as fast as it grew

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Post by majkinetor » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 8:15 PM UTC

mdoms wrote: post #11

phnofive wrote: post #2

https://archive.md/WJXml

Ok I know it's off topic but I have got to ask, what is up with archive.md links? I have never in my life successfully loaded an archive.md URL. I either get straight up DNS errors or very occasionally I see a spinner that never finishes loading. Yet they must work for others because they're constantly being posted here.

I wish we have archive.md automatic for each post...

Re: South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as fast as it grew

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Post by mdoms » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 8:15 PM UTC

executive wrote: post #16

mdoms wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok I know it's off topic but I have got to ask, what is up with archive.md links? I have never in my life successfully loaded an archive.md URL. I either get straight up DNS errors or very occasionally I see a spinner that never finishes loading. Yet they must work for others because they're constantly being posted here.

Cloudflare DNS blocks

Huh. Any idea why?