Is it just me, or does it look like another ergodox clone/fork? I mean, I'm happy. I hope this would make the split layout even more common place.
Kinesis Advantage 360
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#12Split with major tenting is cool:
https://kinesis-ergo.com/wp-content/uploads/Adv360-Pro-Asymm...
I've already settled on my "endgame" desktop keyboard in the Matias Ergo Pro though. Don't like layouts that stray too far from ANSI.
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#13Been using the Advantage for decades. Splitting the two sides is a terrific idea. Always wanted to mount a split keyboard to the sides of a zero-gravity chair so will try it out with this. Two features I wished they would offer: 1. A nub-mouse like the Thinkpad 2. A touchpad in the center of the keyboard (not needed for the split)
Yes, I've even given them feedback asking for a nib or something somewhere. I used velcro to attach a trackpad to the middle of one of my Advantage2 keyboards and it helps. (If I had my personal choice, it'd probably be a trackball instead of a nib.)
Their keyboards are absolutely fantastic!
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#14I wonder why they’re using Gateron switches rather than Cherry ones? Is it just about cutting costs, or is there a solid technical reason for using clones rather than the originals?
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#15Kinesis Advantage 2 is great, but it's massive and hard to travel with. Looks like the 360 might be a bit easier to travel with.
The Kinesis Advantage 2 fits a Magic Trackpad perfectly right in the middle of the keyboard. This lets you perform mouse actions with you right and left hands.
Emacs keybindings never made sense to me till I tried them with the Kinesis. I feel like Emacs sucks on a standard Mac keyboard and is awesome with a Kinesis. See here for a blog post on the topic if you're interested in learning more: https://mungingdata.com/emacs/learning-emacs-keybindings-aft...
It takes a while to get used to the keyboard layout, but only takes a week to get fully productive. You're eventually able to train your brain to operate fluently on Kinesis & Macbook key layouts without any extra thinking. It's a great investment if you're willing to put in a bit of effort.
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#16I wonder why they’re using Gateron switches rather than Cherry ones? Is it just about cutting costs, or is there a solid technical reason for using clones rather than the originals?
Demand most likely. Lots of people think the clones like gateron are superior to cherries.
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#17Is it just me, or does it look like another ergodox clone/fork? I mean, I'm happy. I hope this would make the split layout even more common place.
The Kinesis "contoured" design with thumb clusters is almost 30 years old, and itself was a clone of the Maltron design - so I think it's accurate to describe the Ergodox as a clone of the Kinesis.
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#18Kinesis Advantage 2 is great, but it's massive and hard to travel with. Looks like the 360 might be a bit easier to travel with. The Kinesis Advantage 2 fits a Magic Trackpad perfectly right in the middle of the keyboard. This lets you perform mouse actions with you right and left hands. Emacs keybindings never made sense to me till I tried them with the Kinesis. I feel like Emacs sucks on a standard Mac keyboard and…
I bet the kinesis foot pedals would take emacs to the next level too. I use spacemacs in evil mode so I never bothered having to learn all those key chording things for emacs.
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#19I like how they added inboard macro keys. It was odd before how the Advantage had all this programming capability but you had to come up with some new keystrokes. Is it me or the price difference between the two makes the Pro model a no-brainer? Wireless, backlighting, better keycaps, and better programming model for only $40 more?
Not everybody wants a wireless keyboard. The least desirable thing, to me, is probably the backlight. It's clearly toggle-able though, so should be fine.
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#20I cannot fathom why the Kinesis keyboards don't have thumb shift by default.
At least it's customizable.