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Re: Pop_OS 21.10 has landed

#12

What is exactly the benefit of Pop_OS compared to Ubuntu? I mean installed drivers are great, but that was basically only one apt install command and a reboot.

Drivers, customizations on top of Gnome (if you prefer them), App Store, flatpak instead of snap. Plus made by an indie company rather than some massive corp if you're into that sort of thing.

Re: Pop_OS 21.10 has landed

#13

What is exactly the benefit of Pop_OS compared to Ubuntu? I mean installed drivers are great, but that was basically only one apt install command and a reboot.

Drivers, customizations on top of Gnome (if you prefer them), App Store, flatpak instead of snap. Plus made by an indie company rather than some massive corp if you're into that sort of thing.

Hmm, Canonical is not what I call 'massive' at ~600 employees[1]. Looks like Red Hat is almost twice that big[2], which still strikes me as pretty small?

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_(company)#Employees

2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat

Re: Pop_OS 21.10 has landed

#14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drivers, customizations on top of Gnome (if you prefer them), App Store, flatpak instead of snap. Plus made by an indie company rather than some massive corp if you're into that sort of thing.

Hmm, Canonical is not what I call 'massive' at ~600 employees[1]. Looks like Red Hat is almost twice that big[2], which still strikes me as pretty small? 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_(company)#Employees 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat

I think you misread the page, as it says that Red Hat has 13,400 employees, which is 22x more than 600, not "almost twice" :)

But also, both numbers are also outdated. The Canonical employee count is apparently around 500 in 2020 [0] and the Red Hat employee count is no longer public post-acquisition, but it's higher than it was in 2019.

[0] https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Canonica...

Re: Pop_OS 21.10 has landed

#15
I've been running this on my ThinkPad P1 for a couple of years now without fail. I like that I have the ability to be able to easily switch between discrete and integrated graphics and download and update ThinkPad firmware. I assume Ubuntu has these features now, but I'm not really sure as I haven't touched it in a long time.

Initially I had issues specific to my P1 regarding external monitors and switching between graphics modes, but I likely would've experienced these issues with whatever distro I used, and they've since been addressed.

The only thing that irritates me now is that the Pop Shop app occasionally blocks apt because it's running update in the background. And the app can become laggy if you're doing too much with it at once.

Overall PopOS just does what is says on the box and with minimal need to configure it. It's currently my preferred distro for modern laptops.

Re: Pop_OS 21.10 has landed

#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drivers, customizations on top of Gnome (if you prefer them), App Store, flatpak instead of snap. Plus made by an indie company rather than some massive corp if you're into that sort of thing.

Hmm, Canonical is not what I call 'massive' at ~600 employees[1]. Looks like Red Hat is almost twice that big[2], which still strikes me as pretty small? 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_(company)#Employees 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat

True, I was being a bit hyperbolic with "massive corp" :). Employee size isn't everything in determining how "big" an organization is, though. I really just meant that it, personally, makes me feel better to use something created by a small, scrappy team than something maintained by a multinational enterprise.

Re: Pop_OS 21.10 has landed

#17

What is exactly the benefit of Pop_OS compared to Ubuntu? I mean installed drivers are great, but that was basically only one apt install command and a reboot.

Ubuntu without snapd

And Nvidia drivers already set up, which you can spend a lot of time fiddling with in other distros.

Re: Pop_OS 21.10 has landed

#18

What is exactly the benefit of Pop_OS compared to Ubuntu? I mean installed drivers are great, but that was basically only one apt install command and a reboot.

I started to use it a few years ago when it was the only distro runs flawlessly on my laptop. All other distros had various problems at the time. I think that's its killer feature, hassle free.

It's the only distro I would recommend to non tech people if they want to try out linux.

Re: Pop_OS 21.10 has landed

#19
> We now disable user-added PPAs, as they often cause upgrade issues for users.

Doesn't that eliminate a lot of software options? Just curious, I haven't used Linux or Ubuntu in a while so things could have changed or I might be misunderstanding something

Re: Pop_OS 21.10 has landed

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ubuntu without snapd

And Nvidia drivers already set up, which you can spend a lot of time fiddling with in other distros.

and they are setup in a way which breaks compatibility with nvidia-docker, so beware of that.
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